"John R. Carroll" wrote in
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"D Murphy" wrote in message
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jim rozen wrote in
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In article , Gunner
says...

So because the price of oil has been raised by those willing to bid
it up..its the fault of Bush?

So, folks had to wait in line to buy gas, on even/odd days?

Was that Carter's fault?

Electorate said, "yep."


People have short memories. Oil was higher under Carter than it is
today. In todays (2005) dollars oil was 86 dollars per barrel in
1980. In the
70's
oil rose the equivelant of 71 (2005) dollars per barrel. Not even
close to the piddly couple of bucks that oil has gone up recently.

People spend less of their income on energy today than they did then
as well. Even with the recent increases taken into account.

GWB won't be running for re-election anyhow.

Dan,
I would like you to consider this, It's worth a moment.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/26/op...26krugman.html
snip the op ed piece

Far more interesting IMO is the national poll and studies the New York
Times did earlier this year. It covers everything that was in that
editorial and so much more. Start he

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/national/class/index.html?
excamp=GGGNaverageincome

Mouse over the box on top of the page an click on the "American Attitudes"
one. This nationwide poll doesn't really support the editorial position.

People that work in manufacturing are probably a little more prone to
feeling left behind. Because they are.

After WWII all of the major industrialized nations were left in ruins
except for the U.S. We enjoyed a couple of decades of being the worlds
largest supplier of just about everything with almost no competition. As
the other mnations rebuilt they needed us less and less, and eventually
reached a point in the 1970's where they could hold their own competing
with us. Since then, third world countries have become a factor as they
have abundant, cheap labor.

Look at this:

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/national/20050515
_CLASS_GRAPHIC/index_02.html

Pick "production" from the pull down menu and you can see that there is not
a lot of money to be made working in a factory. If you compare that to
"installation, maintenance and repair" you can see that you're probably
better off installing CNC machines than you are running them.

A person can make more money programming computers than they can
programming CNC's. The skill set required is about the same.

In any case education is the best path to higher income. One of the great
things about living here is that you can go to school at night, no matter
your age.


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Dan