On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 01:01:55 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Andy Hall wrote:
The discussion should not be about the hours worked or pay and
conditions, but what is necessary to get the job done. When and only
when that is sorted out, is it reasonable to have the discussion about
pay and conditions. Otherwise, the latter discussion becomes
academic.

Sounds a bit like religion. Put up with s**t now and you'll have your
reward in heaven. While the bishops have their reward now.


It's not religion - simply reality.

Implicit in the suggestion of "put up with s**t now" is the assumption
of an adversarial relationship. I don't accept that.


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..andy

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