"Ken Davey" wrote in message
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SteveB wrote:
"Tom Quackenbush" wrote


If someone attacked you with a baseball bat and all you had with
which to defend yourself was a pistol, you're not allowed to shoot
the guy?

R,
Tom Q.

The training I received in three CCF classes is that you pretty much
have to let them beat the **** out of you, and then the last thing
you do before you pass out is start shooting. You either have to be
dying, or fear that you will die, and there has to be a substantial
threat that you WILL die.
That still won't clear you from all legal entanglements and civil
lawsuits, but at least you will have some measure of defense.

Sad but true.

Steve
A baseball bat in the hands of an attacker IS a lethal weapon and as such
every jurisdiction that I am aware of (including Canada) allows for lethal
force to counter the attack.

Ken.

Nice try, Ken, but wrongo.

In a court, some smart ass lawyer is gonna ask why you just didn't run away
instead of shooting this poor mother's son, who was a promising student at
welding school and who had a promising career as a baseball player. And you
know, he's right. This poor kid may have been on the way to baseball
practice and you misread the situation. Or, yes, he might have been ready
to do batting practice with your round melon. In court, they will crucify
you unless he has hit you.

You MUST exhaust every avenue before you can shoot someone. You must run.
You must announce you have a gun. You must order them to back off. You
must say if they come closer that you will shoot. If you start shooting,
and they haven't touched you, you might as well as pile all your stuff and
money in the street and set it on fire with five gallons of gasoline.
Because either way, it's gone. Some ambulance chaser is going to spin it
towards this poor youth, even though he has a record of 39 arrests. (you
can't bring that up in court) And then, he can run off, and call the cops,
and you have to prove that you were NOT brandishing a weapon which is a
felony, and which you can lose your CCF permit for, if you have one. If you
don't have a permit and a registered weapon, you will go to jail for assault
with a deadly weapon.

It's stupid, but hey, I don't make the rules.

Read up on it. The days of the old west are gone when one could defend
himself with deadly force. Welcome to the new century of liberalism.

It is not a simple thing any more.

Are you licensed to carry a gun? Have you ever had training in this area?

Steve