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WillR
 
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BillyBob wrote:
"WillR" wrote in message
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Gary wrote:
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I tried it on
scrap and decided that it wasn't too far from the bedroom furniture co=

lor
and decided to use it.

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TEST FIRST.

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Hmmm. I thought he stated that he did test.


Clearly not enough. Been there myself. He did not state whether he=20
tested all types of wood or one type. Not enough info to judge one way=20
or another... He did not even state that it was scrap wood from the same =

furniture piece -- I did that -- _once_. We could guess that's what he=20
meant...

Not nit picking -- spent many years trouble shooting designs and=20
projects -- most people really do not give enough details to do more=20
than guess -- which we are doing.

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Get Bob Flexners book on Understanding Wood Finishing. Look in Amazon
and Chapters if you like.

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As he points out -- there is a time and a place for a _stain_ this was
probably the place.

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I have Flexner's book and immediately pulled it out to quote portions o=

f the
text to help the OP. Actually, I did not find anything that the OP did=


wrong.=20


Nor do we know that he did anything "right". We are both guessing. Your=20
guesses are as good as mine. Hopefully someone will provide enough info=20
to guide the fellow for "next time".


I'm not sure what you mean by "_Stain_". The OP used analine dye
which is a form of stain.



Most people here refer to "stain" when there is particulate suspended=20
matter in the solution etc... The stain generally obscures (muddies) the =

grain. Dye does not have suspended matter -- and hence will not normally =

obscure the grain. Hence some (most? many?) people prefer the dye -- for =

Cherry for example -- misguided souls the lot of them.

I have successfully used Deftoil Danish Oil -- Fruitwood colour -- in=20
these circumstances (on cherry, maple, walnut or oak combinations). It=20
is a "stain" -- but acts more like a die -- according to Flexner. (See=20
Understanding Wood Finishes page 85 -- UR corner -- note on bitumen or=20
gilsonite.) I stumbled on this use by accident when creating pieces from =

multiple woods -- yet I wanted the colour to "tie together". Like most=20
people I checked afterwards and it confirmed why it worked.

See here for Deftoil info...
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.a...3D1,190,42942=


I think Flexner seems to indicate a _gel_ _stain_ in these circumstances =

where stain absorption is uncertain... but I could be reading his book=20
wrong. Unfortunately if the Cherry Stain Police are active in the=20
neighborhood you are risking a substantial fine. lol

I have actually used walnut coloured, oil based stain on walnut lately=20
-- looked great. It did muddy the grain, but it tie together all the=20
different hues in the wood. Another Flexner tip.

Flexner is right about one thing -- some people give "stain" a bad rap.


Cheers and best wishes.

Bob
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Will R.
Jewel Boxes and Wood Art
http://woodwork.pmccl.com
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those=20
who have not got it.=94 George Bernard Shaw