(1) Quote the post to which you are responding. If you give me some line
of crap that shows that you have no clue how USENET works, plonk will be
the result.
(2) You started out raving about cyanide. Now you're on about dermatitis
and respiratory and eye irritation. If that worries you then for God's
sake never eat wasabi, Chinese mustard, or anything with hot peppers. Or
slice onions for that matter.
As for _cured_ CA, the paper you link indicates that that is an allergic
reaction. You might not bed aware of this, but take any arbitrary
substance and it is almost certain that someone, somewhere is allergic to
it. There are people who will die from eating one peanut, and I was at a
party a while back where one of the guests had to be rushed to the hospital
because he inadvertently got too close to a strawberry (didn't even touch
it).
Beyond that the paper talks about _uncured_ CA. Glue your eyes shut with it
and you're not going to give a damn about a little bit of dermatitis.
You need to get some perspective.
Google "wood dust toxicity" and you'll find that the wood you put that CA on
is far more likely to hurt you than is the CA.
wrote:
It is important to take things in context. I do not care if you are
careful or not. It is sad you wish to make this a more personal issue,
as I do not.
Who is making anything a "personal issue"?
A strong caution was what I was elucidating, not mother
hen advice.
Raving about nonexistent cyanide is not "a strong caution".
I have been in construction for over 30 years, and retain
10 fingers, 10 toes, and both eyes. They are still attached and still
work because I err on the side of caution.
Err away. But if you are going to make assertions, at least see that they
bear some slight relation to truth.
And you are missing an important point, so her it is, one more time.
Grinding up and inhaling the dust into your lungs, even the smallest
particulates, is much different than using it as an adhesive, in which
case you are probably only going to inhale only the solvents.
And you are missing an even more important point. Many species of wood are
toxic to some extent. Some produce severe allergic reactions in a large
percentage of those exposed. Anyone who finishes turnings is going to be
exposed to wood dust as well as CA dust and there is nothing to suggest
that the CA dust is going to do them more harm than the wood dust.
When used in medical applications, the CA used there is a different
ratio composition, and it cures differently.
Cured acrylic is cured acrylic.
However, when leaving the
cured monomers in place,
"Cured monomers"? Once it's cured there are no monomers. The curing
process is called "polymerization" for a reason.
it gives off a small amount of toxic that are
deemed to be of concern to the medical community:
http://www.niih.go.jp/en/indu_hel/2004/pdf/42-2-14.pdf
Please note that this is relatively new research, but also note that it
is a review document of research performed by two different
universities, and one government industrial health organization.
So let's see, you've gone from cyanide to "small amount of toxic" without
once mentioning the possibility that you might be mistaken in your
fear-mongering.
Realizing this may not meet the stringent standards of those such as
yourself, they have conveniently (and necessarily) provided 32
annotated research references for convenient fact validation.
It includes 32 references. So what? Most of them have nothing to do with
toxicity.
My conclusion to this thread (for me) is a quote from their conclusion:
"Although there is not enough evidence that to prove that CA is
carinogenic to humans,
In other words "we don't have even the slightest reason to think that there
is a problem, but we're going to scare people anyway"
it can be toxic to the neurological system and
the respiritory system, as well as causing dermititis and urticaria.
If you read the entire paper instead of just the conclusion you would be
aware that those effects are for uncured CA.
These efects are harmful enough for dental staff and other workers to
ensure that they take steps to avoid direct contact with CA and reduce
environmental exposure."
Good enough for me. This was found with 5 minutes of Google search.
There is plenty more info out there if you are actually interested in
the facts.
You can glue your eyelids to your eyeballs with CA as well. And that is far
worse than "dermatitis and urticaria". So what?
I must say though, I did not find any specific research that delved
into the reaction of the human body to inhaling the polymerized monomer
itself to provide a direct pathway into the bloodstream....
"polymerized monomer"? Why don't you just say "polymer" like the rest of
the world?
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