"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 09:07:07 +0100, "IMM" wrote:


"Andy Hall" wrote in message
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On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 17:25:21 +0100, "IMM" wrote:



If all house built are eco then the
populous would have no choice.

It's populace, and I think you just
demonstrated the point that
legislation does not drive progress.

I never demonstrated that at all. Legislation
can ensure progress keeps
going along and state-of-the-art is used.

In the case of houses, it would take
decades to centuries to reach the
point that eco houses could be the only choice.

That may be so. But the standard would have been created and a population
educated towards it. You have to start somewhere.

No doubt in 20
years, the technology situation will
have changed anyway.

The Canadian R-2000 is a "standard". How you achieve it is yours and the
BCOs business.

It's not politically interesting for
a government to legislate
something that will take that long
to have an effect.

It puts a feather in their environmental hat.

It would take centuries for
that choice to disappear because of
the existing housing base.

The housing problem could be solved
in a few years if land was made feely
available to build on. The government
could ensure high building standards
using the latest methods and the private
sector would fill the need.

There is the problem. Need. The
customers who are buying do not
perceive (for right or wrong) a *need*
at this point for eco houses.
Creating a product does not guarantee its sale.

Lack of understand and poor focus yet again. Once agin. Eco is not on their
agenda because they know nothing of it.

Encourage selfbuilding and individual
homes would emerge.

I don't have a problem with self
building or individual development as
long as the properties produced are
acceptable to those living near
them.

So you prefer Barratt pastiche. My God.

You can't focus that is certain.

It isn't an issue of focus, but of reality.

Eco is not on their agenda because they
know nothing of it.

That's one of many reasons.

For a product to sell, a whole bunch of
factors have to be in place.
Availability and awareness are only two of them.

A product is made to standards. If all are to an eco standard then the
public will know the standard and buy accordingly. In short, they will only
have an eco choice in a new house. So, if a 100 homes are eco and next to
them another 100 homes of similar size and spec that are not, the eco homes
will command a higher price.