"Jim Yanik" . wrote in message
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Let's dissect this. You used the word "cruelty". Although I have no
problem with someone slowly killing a dog (the sponge trick, for
instance), it's not something I'd do myself.

But it IS cruelty to animals,both legally and morally.

And,you recommend illegal things you would not do yourself.
There's that bad Usenet advice I mentioned.

I've already informed you that a dog is no different than a mosquito. When
you apply the same rules about cruelty to a mosquito, then we can talk. If
you don't agree that the two animals have equal value, explain yourself.


That's not because I give
a damn about the dog. Rather, I'd want to be sure it was dead. If I
lived in a place where it was safe to do so, I'd opt for a bullet. It
would satisfy my desire to be thorough.

and in most urban areas,discharging a firearm for that purpose is illegal.
More of your bad Usenet advice.

Yes. I stated that fact about firearms in the paragraph you just responded
to. No need to repeat what I've already said. I'm already well versed about
what constitutes safe shooting.



As far as "exceptions", you can only make that statement if you
realize it's limited by your awareness of what dog catchers deal with
all day. Do you work for your local government, and have access to
those statistics? Or, do you go from door to door asking people about
their experiences with dogs?

As I said;Sure they are exceptions;the majority of the US population lives
in URBAN areas,and few of them have food-producing gardens.

If these are exceptions, then every municipality in this country is wasting
a whole lot of cash keeping dog catchers on the payroll, don't you think?



They need to find a dead animal first. The key word is "find".
Otherwise, all they have is a missing pet report.

Ah,so you advocate an illegal act,then compound it by hiding
evidence,a second illegal act.
You must be a wonderful law-abiding citizen.(not)

If an animal was destroying your handiwork and you could get little
or no help from the authorities, I'm sure you'd handle it any way
you saw fit. Or, if you had to shell out cash to have your carpets
cleaned because of some asshole's pet, again, I'm sure you'd be over
the top.

It's happened to me,tracked the crap right thru the living room and
into the kitchen,and I had to clean it myself.It's NOT any major
carpet cleaning
deal.And I did go "over the top",and let the manager know about it.
The woman moved out shortly after that.(sad,she was VERY hot!)

My one experience with carpet involved professional cleaning. Some
people have more sensitive noses than others,

Or are just too finicky or lazy to clean it themselves.

Nah...not at all. I do most things myself. But, it doesn't matter. Even if
you do it yourself, the owner of the dog has stolen something more precious
than money from you: Your time.



Dogs are attracted to the scent where other dogs have created a
bathroom. It doesn't matter if it's cleaned up. Nobody carries a
bucket of water with them when walking their dog. So, the spot is
attractive to stray dogs later, and the situation gets out of hand.
This is why I tell dog owners to go elsewhere, even if they intend to
clean it up.

It's not that they use your yard and then clean it up,it's that they tend
to NOT USE such places in the first place(the 1st category,not the other
2). They curb their dogs in the proper places-not on others property.

They tend to NOT USE what? Other peoples' property? That's nonsense. If that
were the case, their owners would not be walking around with plastic bags
and paper towels.


Now,walking off one's own property means either exercise or an intent to
deposit the dog's wastes on someone else's property.Also that they do not
have a fenced in yard to allow the dog to relieve itself without being in
a
person's control.

Conclusion: Dogs are not appropriate as pets, unless they are owned by
exceptionally considerate humans, which we know is not the case. Therefore,
dogs are no better than mosquitoes (like their owners).



So, the human walks the dog, which leads to the
antisocial behavior and disrespect for property rights.

No,some humans allow the dog to select the place for their
deposits,instead
of being in command and control themselves.No "psychology" about it,just
laziness and no consideration for others.

Unless the humans are told otherwise, they stop wherever the dogs tell them
to. You've seen this, but you do not trust what you see.



Therefore, the
dog is at least equally responsible.

Only in your mind.

Nope. Ask your veterinarian. The dogs follows its nose. It marks territory,
and returns to the same place repeatedly.