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Doug Kanter
 
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"Jim Yanik" . wrote in message
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I get the impression you would like to live in a lawless society.
There are laws in just about every state about harming domestic
pets,but you would rather act on your own and leave lethal traps
for them(except that the law doesn't see it that way.),in "defense
of your property",rather
than talk to the owner,or get the authorities involved.

Naturally, you know what's best IN THEORY, but I've dealt with
irresponsible dog owners for the past 25 years. There are two types
and ONLY two types:

Type 1: Knows that what they're doing is wrong, but doesn't give a
damn. Type 2: Doesn't realize that they're ****ed up. Too stupid to
own a dog, in other words.

My preference is to use the existing laws in my favor. Here, it's 3
strikes and your doggy is taken away forever. That usually takes
weeks. I've learned to compress the process into as little as a week
in one case. This usually involves retraining the dog catcher. Many
believe the dog owner should have a little time in between visits,
to "think about their mistake". Nope.

As far as eliminating the animal, I'd prefer to use a bullet, but
this is not possible in my neighborhood. However, make no mistake
about this, Jimmy boy: All day long, farmers cause nuisance animals
to vanish, and it's perfectly legal.

FARMERS,in agriculture-zoned areas,sure.
But most if not all of the queries HERE are from URBAN
homeowners,where it is is NOT legal.


Actually, in NY, you can end any animal that damages ANY food crop.


And WHERE do people grow food crops? Farms.
Most people posting here have not mentioned any gardens being devastated.
You're reaching again.AND trying to use an exemption as the general rule.


The law allows for protection of food growing plots of any size. I believe
it's a holdover from the victory garden days, during WWII. Haven't you ever
seen 1 acre food gardens? Some people do that for the food, not just for
enjoyment as I do. But, those plots are not considered "farms". A 40x40 plot
in a typical suburban neighborhood may be protected in the same way as a
farm.

As far as "devastated", in my previous home, a couple of dogs were doing
exactly that: Digging in the easiest soil they could find, which happened to
be my garden. A one week old lettuce seedling does not respond well to being
****ed on and then dug out of the soil. The solution involved a conference
with the town justice, a series of warnings (one of which was rather
horrific), and the sudden "retraining" of the animal control person. It
worked nicely.

I'm glad you haven't had to deal with something like this. It was NOT
enjoyable.



They need to find a dead animal first. The key word is "find".
Otherwise, all they have is a missing pet report.


Ah,so you advocate an illegal act,then compound it by hiding evidence,a
second illegal act.
You must be a wonderful law-abiding citizen.(not)


If an animal was destroying your handiwork and you could get little or no
help from the authorities, I'm sure you'd handle it any way you saw fit. Or,
if you had to shell out cash to have your carpets cleaned because of some
asshole's pet, again, I'm sure you'd be over the top. You will say
otherwise, however.



The first type,those that clean up afterwards
without any prompting,are the sort that would not use another person's
yard
anyways. "curb their dog in the *proper* places" should have been a clue
to
you.


I don't know what fantasy world you live in, but people who clean up after
their dogs STILL walk them, and let the dogs do their thing on other
peoples' property. And, in some cases, they refuse to obey requests to take
their dogs elsewhere.