"w_tom" wrote in message
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MOVs don't open the circuit. Even grossly
undersized power
strips that have vaporized MOVs still connect an
appliance to
AC mains. Where is this disconnection that Pop
claims? It
does not exist.
MOVs conduct until the heat causes them to BECOME an
open circuit! I haven't seen anyone say the CREATE an
open circuit.

A vaporized MOV operates outside of what the
manufacturer
has intended and designed. Pop, if he had used facts
rather
than post insults, would have first read those MOV
datasheets
rather than learn from a BestBuy salesman.
That's nonsensical crap above. It means nothing. You
obviously not only don't know much about the subject
and your reading comprehension appears to be even
worse.

Effective 'whole house' protectors install
sufficient
joules.
"INSTALL JOULES"? Do you even know what a joule IS,
or what an equivalency might be? You don't "install"
joules.

The owner never knows a surge exists AND the protector
remains functional.
Sometimes. And sometimes everything works fine, but
the MOVs have done their job and BECOME OPEN CIRCUITS,
which will no longer have a knee voltage at which they
begin to turn on at.
That does NOT say they open the ckt; it says the
MOVs become an open ckt. Learn to read if you're going
to give advice. It would also help if you knew what
you were talking about.

Power strips that are undersized will
vaporize leaving the appliance exposed to that surge.
Like I said: What is "undersized"? HOW do you
under/over size a power strip? A "power strip"
literally does NOT have ANY surge protection. Your
terminology is all mixed up.

Then
the naive will recommend them and buy more useless
protectors
at tens of times more money per protected appliance.
Possible; anything's possible. Cnn you give a specific
example?

The naive will declare, "the protector sacrificed
itself to
save my computer."
So will knowledgeable and experienced electrical
engineers and technicians and those with horizontal
experience records. "Naive" appears to be a word you
like, but not one that is descriptive in the context
you're using it in.

Protection already inside the adjacent
computer saved that computer.
NOT if the surge protection clamped the surge down to
usable levels. It's also possible after such an event,
that the "protection" inside the computer (it's
actually in the power supply and telephone connection
ckts, by the way) could concievably be no longer in
existance. The MOVs could easily have also done their
job, and been blown before the "power strip" clamped.
You'd have to know the knee voltages and the clamping
times to make such a statement as you' ve tried to
argue here.

The surge was too small to
overwhelm internal computer protection. But the same
tiny
surge vaporized an undersized, overpriced, and
ineffective
protector.
HOW was it undersized? Are you aware of the joule
ratings used in most PC supplies? And those in the so
called "power strips"? I am, and I've evaluated and
repaired a LOT of them. THEN you have to go further
and consider CMOS damage, whether it's lost ITS
protection, and so on.

Why put sufficient joules inside a protector when
less joules means Pop will recommend it?
You don't PUT JOULES INSIDE a protector!


If MOVs worked as Pop claims, then removed MOVs
(same as
vaporized MOVs) would cause the power strip to stop
working.
Reality: even the OK light remains illuminated after
all MOVs
are removed:
Of COURSE, you idiot! This is getting comical, and
rather pathetic, so I'm going to write you off as a
troll and you'll not hear further from me until/unless
you find something sane and sensible to say. Your
record is pathetic and you are a dangerous person to
rely on.
http://www.zerosurge.com/HTML/movs.html
Why do power strips with vaporized MOVs still provide
power?
Because they do not operate as Pop has posted.
They operate EXACTLY as I said.

This is getting comical, and rather pathetic, so I'm
going to write you off as a troll and you'll not hear
further from me until/unless you find something sane
and sensible to say. Your record is pathetic and you
are a dangerous person to rely on.

You're a troll.\

PLONK! Thud!