In article , J. R. Carroll says...

US Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld gave the first indication Sunday
that some members of the Bush administration recognize that the insurgency
may not be in its "last throes," as Vice President Dick Cheney said
recently. Mr. Rumsfeld told Fox News Sunday: "Insurgencies tend to go on
five, six, eight, 10, 12 years."

Thank you, yes it was rumsfeld, not rove who came up with
numbers in years.

Jim


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