"Doug Miller" wrote in message
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In article , "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

My point was that some people believe freedom of choice is actually passed
down from a deity, and this is especially true of cars for some reason. In
fact, freedom of choice in this country originated with guns. Period.
Nothing to do with a god, although you really touch a nerve with some
people
if you suggest this. :-)

You display a complete lack of understanding of the philosophy underlying
the birth of the United States. It appears that you have never read, or
failed
to understand, the Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal;
that
they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights; that
among
these rights are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that
governments
are instituted among men to secure these rights; that when any form of
government becomes destructive of these ends it is the right of the people
to alter or abolish it and to institute a new government..."

In other words: rights *do* come from God. The government is there to
protect
the rights that God gave us. If the government is not doing its job, it's
our
right to get rid of it, and replace it with something that will.

Freedom didn't come from a gun; freedom comes from God. But if you want to
*keep* your freedom, it sure helps to have guns. That's how the colonists
got
rid of an unsuitable government.

The founders stated their belief in that document. This does not mean that
you should justify bad choices by waving that document. If you do that,
you're no different than an Islamic extremist who justifies his violence by
waving the Koran. The minute you stop thinking for yourself, you're nothing
but a rock.