Interesting response; nearly identical to my own
experience with their D.E. pump/filter. Hayward seems
to be about the best there is, from my seriously
unscientific "survey", namely what I got vs. what other
people got.

Yes, big difference between inground/aboveground;
usually also in prices, but especially for making
connections. Hayward pumps (hayward.com) have a
ceramic bearing, but even it can be destroyed to the
point of leaking. Replaced motor at about 7 years,
filter at about ten, only because it was starting to
show stress cracks around the plunger bolts.

If it happens again, I'll replace it all at once: then
I'll have an "extra" for opening the pool each spring.
Two filters in parallel turns out ot make short work of
getting it started. Lots less bumping, twice the time
to "plug" them. Just need a few extra parts around for
hooking them up: I collected LOTS of valves over the
years!

HTH,

Pop

"Jmagerl" wrote in message
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please describe "pump is shot". usually what goes bad
when there is no water is the pump seal. It depends
on water as a lubricant and cooler. Without water
they overheat and start leaking. Replacing a seal is
easy and cheap enough to do that I mght give it a try
before replacing the whole pump. Rebuild kits are
available with all the needed seals. Or you can take
it into the pool store and have them do a complete
recondition on the unit. Still cheaper than a new
pump.

My Hayward pump is going on 14 years. I rebuilt the
seal after 7 when the same thing happened to me. I
take my pump indoors every winter.

As far as the motor goes, two things usually fail on
them: the bearings and the centrifical switch for the
start up capacitor. I replaced the bearings on my
spare pump when the little water shedding disk (on
the shaft just infront of the bearing) disintegrated
allowing water to get to the bearing.

"Travis Jordan" wrote in message
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Mike Hartigan wrote:
One of the hoses on my filter failed last night and
this morning I
found the water level just below the skimmer. I
brought the water
level back where it belongs, crossed my fingers,
and turned on the
pump. Motor runs fine, but, not unexpectedly, the
pump is shot. I
considered replacing or repairing just the pump but
I figured that
this unit is seven years old and the motor will
likely need replacing
soon anyway, so why not just replace the
motor/pump? They're more
widely available in that configuration anyway, and
it'll be cheaper
than replacing them individually a year or so
apart.

Two questions:

1. After seven years, does it make sense to replace
them both now, or
is this overkill?

As long as you're in there doing the work, I would
replace them as an
assembly.

But first, make sure that it isn't just a matter of
the pump losing
prime.

Can't help you with the brands...don't know the
Doughboy. I've had
excellent service (10 years) from Sta-Rite.