Doug Miller wrote:
In article , Juergen Hannappel wrote:

To answer you last question: Yes...
The economy needs a restructuring so that it provides work and supply
for all *without economic growth*, otherwise there will be no future
worth living in.

In order for that to work, there must also be no population growth. How do you
propose to achieve *that*?


Historically, three most important factors to reducing population
growth, in order of effectiveness have been shown to be:

1) Reduced infant/child mortality.

2) Improved general education (not indoctrination, the three R's, and
job-related education) especially for women.

3) Improved access to birth control, especially for women.

Absent immigration, France and Italy would have negative population
growth indeed, near the end of the 20th century they had the lowest
birth rates in the world. Hmm, maybe conversion to Catholocism would
help too.

There may be draconian measures that could reduce population growth
but the three stated above, appear to be more than adequate, few
people find them objectionable as a matter of priciple, and those
that do number in inverse proportion to the relative effectiveness.
Further, more draconian measures can backfire by fostering rebellion.
I recall that a cow-orker helped his sister-in-law and her family
emigrate from China to the US back in the 1990s. The couple
had twelve (12) children all under the age of 18, some born during
the period when childbirth in China was illegal, all born when
having more than one child was illegal.

I don't claim to have a deep understanding of the whys but the reasons
for the effectiveness of these factors seem to be:

1) Improved infant and child survival rates encourage parents to have
fewer children and to invest more in those they have (which feeds
back into the second factor.)

2) Improved education, especially for women, gives people, especially
women, something to which to dedicate their time besides making
babies.

3) Pretty much self-explanatory but the interesting thing is the
greater
effectiveness of the first too.

The principle obstacles to implimenting them seem to be that all three
and the resultant reduced population growth itself serve to reduce
the world population that is easily explaoitable for political and
especially for economic purposes.

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FF