Good experience input RBM, I thank you for the reply.

RJ


"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message
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Lately, all Levitan brand GFCI outlets come with clamp only connections.
If you're using stranded wire, they're fine, however standard building
wire is solid and I find that I'll tighten the clamp as much as I can on
each wire, then as I push the receptacle into the box I usually notice the
wires moving in the clamps. The movement of the outlet while installing
the wires tends to loosen them. What I do is retighten each one just as
I'm pushing it into the box. How many people, especially those with
limited experience are even going to notice this. With a backstab, you can
insert the wire, then pull on it to be sure it's in good, and if it's not
you usually feel it. I'm not advocating the backstab method, especially
for non professionals. When you turn the wire on a screw, you can both see
and feel that you have a good connection
"Backlash" wrote in message
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RBM, just curious, what are your concerns as an electrician with the
clamping type connection? I used the term mainly to distinguish that I
was going to use something other than a back stab. I was debating with
myself on whether to use a wrap around the screw, or to use the clamping
type connection, where the wire is inserted into the rear of the device
and the screw tightened to secure it.

RJ

"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message
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In over thirty years in the electrical business, I've seen a number of
badly backstabbed receptacles. In all cases the wire was improperly
inserted so the contact was not what it should be. I think they work
just fine if properly connected. I agree turning a wire on a screw is a
more positive connection, but I have serious doubts about screw clamps.
I'd be interested to see what those connections look like in twenty
years
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
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The other problem that happens. When outlets are wired in a chain, one
outlet feeds the next one down the line. Sometimes a back stabbed wire
will
come loose, and then all the outlets down the line stop working. I've
seen
this twice.

I think "back stabbed" is the correct term, in meaning. Double meaning,
yes,
Brutus?

--

Christopher A. Young
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"Backlash" wrote in message
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I had a receptacle in one of my houses (late 70's)that a cord plugged
into
would fall right out. House is empty right now. I took the recptacle
out,
and it had been backwired with the push-in stab method. The area of
connection was fried and crumbling. I shut off the power to the house
and
started going all over it pulling receptacles and switches. I found 2
more
situations like this before I quit for the night. Needless to say, ALL
the
units in the house will be replaced, getting side terminal screw clamp
connections, after trimming back of wires. All wire nut connections
will
also be checked. I checked and tightened all the connections in the
main
panel when I bought the house, before power was turned on. I have
always
been wary of the push-in connections, and now I know why. My opinion is
that
they are a fire waiting to happen. I also think the heat of the poor
connection is what annealed the grippers in the receptacle, causing it
to
loose it's ability to hold the plug.
I'm posting this to make others aware of the potential of this type
situation to affect your lives, or the lives of others. Be sure your
electrical connections are good ones.

RJ