Let the record show that Gunner wrote back on Mon,
23 May 2005 23:44:57 GMT in misc.survivalism :
On Mon, 23 May 2005 18:33:39 -0400, "Proto" wrote:

Gunner wrote:
On Sun, 22 May 2005 19:45:12 -0400, "Proto" wrote:


Libs believe in taxing the nation into prosperity.


The Social Security System has to me always been viewed as a part
of American History. More than a political tool or simple act that
can be misused and taken away forever. I like to think that Social
Security is a small way of saying "Thanks" to the seniors that have
made that long and weary road to become the grandfathers of today
and yesterday. A proud but humble place to be and to some entirely
necessary.

Too bad it was not designed or implimented to be a gift to anyone who
manages to reach a magic age.


Then there is always the 'Transition Fee" some where around 2
trillion as last calculated taken off the top. I wonder where that
will end up.

I must be a liberal if I want things to go back the way they were
when Ike was around or at least in theory.

So would I. Now if we shut down every leftist/socialist program that
was rammed down our collective throats, along with regulations and
mandates after Ikes time..we could live that way, on a single income.

Thanks for seeing the light and becoming a conservative.

Proto



I am not sure just what it was designed for. It depends on who is doing the
spinning but I know what thing for sure it was not designed to be looted of
over 2 trillion dollars that you failed to comment on.....



Looted? By whom and when? You are a big boy Proto..you know there is
NO such thing as a Social Security Trust Fund. Its all paper, subject
to borrowing by the Government at large.

And the first big "raid" was under LBJ. The accounting gimmicks made
the deficits from the attempt to have Guns _and_ Butter look smaller.

Perhaps now you know why
Clinton claimed to have a surplus...because he claimed those IOUs as
revenue..along with POSSIBLE future revenue..and he spent a bunch of
it.

No doubt bubbah remembers there really was a surplus.


tschus
pyotr

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