On Tue, 17 May 2005 19:20:11 -0700, Lee DeRaud
wrote:

"By the time your hand makes three-quarters to one full
revolution, you've dislocated your shoulder."

The trick is in how you first grab the blade - you have to pre-twist
your wrist in one direction _before_ you grab it. If you just grab uit
straight, then yes you can't get enough twist in.


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