On 29 Apr 2005 04:48:04 -0700, in uk.d-i-y wrote:

Phil Addison wrote:
sorry, bit cryptic comments, out of time.
On 28 Apr 2005 13:24:07 -0700, in uk.d-i-y wrote:

newly incorporated material snipped


Oils
and lubricants?

What about silicone grease as used for assembling rubbery things, and
compression polypipe fittings

Spray on silicone for lubricating curtain runners (and other plastic
moving parts)

3-in-1 oil - more of a penetrating oil

do those have cleaning uses?

OK, perhaps not appropriate.

Under dishwasher detergent - add that it corrodes some steel cutlery,

Are you thinking of old copper steel cutlery?

Dunno - whatever some of ours is made of, they have got pits in them.

Chlorine bleach:

containers. If so prob worth restating it here (as well as under
limescale).

It is under the chlorine bleach entry, so maybe I'm misunderstanding
you.

Yes, saw that after. Some duplication there?

Spray and wipe cleaners:

Produce noxious fumes. Contain ammonia.

Really? never noticed that.

they add perfumes to try to disguise it as much as poss.

ok

The liquid runoff is toxic if eaten.
drunk surely. Ingested better.

I cant think of a scenario where someone is liable to drink it, but it
is relatively easy for it to get into food.

Oh - ISWYM. However, I did say I am commenting from POV of 'ignorant'
reader (not difficult;-) so think it needs clarifying - it sounds wierd
as written.

- saliva: still the best cleaner for fine art oil paintings, but
not
available in litre bottles

No its not. It might work, at your risk, but certainly not the best.

Its what a fine art restoration expert said, so maybe we need some good
references.

Maybe he meant 'next' best if you don't have proper restorers
facilities? My cousin is a restorer, but won't see him for at 3 weeks.

- Autoglym glass cleaner: one of the best commercial

Eh? Autoglym is a cutting/polishing paste for restoring paintwork. An
up
market t-cut.

autoglym is a brand name for a range of products.

OK, haven't come across the glass one.

Hartshorn powder: used to clean silver plate. Wipe a hartshorn and
water paste onto the silver, allow to dry, and brush off. Alcohol
in
the paste will help to remove tarnish.

maybe that's what is in Silvo.

... or autoglym?


- caustic soda: strong alkali, cleans ovens, unblocks drains.
Toxic,
irritant, can cause serious eye injury. One of the high risk
cleaners,
follow instructions with care.
It is important to add crystals to water gradually, and never the
other
way round. Use rubber gloves, plastic apron, goggles. Again
proprietary
stuff with added 'cling' is probably more effective.

last sentence belongs elsewhere

i dont understand

Just reading that para, the "Again proprietary stuff with added 'cling'
is probably more effective" it does not seem to refer to anything. More
effective than what? What is this proprietary stuff? What do you mean by
'added cling'? (I know, but don't assume readers will - otherwise there
is no point in a FAQ if they already know!)

- washing soda: degreases when used with boiling water. For clothes
and
drain unblocking. The majority of drain blockages are mostly
solidified
fat. Discolours aluminium.

*Dissolves* aluminium generating H2. Didn't you do the milk top in
washing soda experiment at school?

ok, will try again there. I used w soda in an aluminium machine for 10
years with no problem, so need to convey the right level of dissolve.

It causes pitting - obviously the level depends on many things. fact -
it will dissolve the old ally foil milk bottle tops completely (if you
can find any). Don't know effect on Al alloys.

Glo-fuel for model aircraft: various different formulae exist,
containing methanol, oils, solvents such as ether, etc. Glo-fuel is
highly volatile, highly flammable, explosive, very toxic, narcotic,
containes ether which is an early and rather risky general
anaesthetic
from the Victorian era, and the fumes can be fatal. A powerful
solvent,

for what?

everything, anything, brains, liver...

I still don't get it. Why are you mentioning this at all? Everything
else you mention what its good for. AFAI (the ignorant reader) knows its
only of use to aero-modellers.

****:
Do we have to use the vernacular?

its just what it is: a better suggestion? Turd? I'll try that

cheers,
NT

Signing off for 2 weeks - have fun with it.

Phil
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