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"Peter Parry" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:38:23 +0100, "Sparks" wrote:

Just checking it's not just me, but I think my new induction hob is
faulty!!


Probably not.


Maybe you are miss understanding me, it is hard to explain everything
without trying pages and pages!...

When turning on the local isolator near the hob, the RCD trips.
If I reset the RCD it will trip either immediately or after a few seconds
If I isolate the hob (Via the double pole isolator, OR by the single pole
MCB in the CU) the tripping stops.


Induction hobs use high frequency and high current in the induction
coils. The switching electronics produce a lot of RF interference
which needs to be filtered to stop it getting back into the mains
supply.


But this is happening with the hob on standby.

A whole house RCD isn't fussed about where leakage is coming from and
if you have a number of noise filtered devices (such as computers,
printers, fax machines)on other circuits then each can leak about
3.5mA and it is likely that the RCD is already on the point of
tripping and the hob filter has just pushed it over the edge. Noise
filter leakage usually occurs whether the device is switched on
(using its own power switch) or not.

If I measure the current between its earth wire and Neutral, I am getting
about 2.9A


The current reading is irrelevant as has been pointed out.


Sorry, but you must be missing the point here!
I am NOT measuring between a connected Neutral and a connected earth, simply
a connected Neutral and the DISCONNECTED earth of the hob (Or the chassis of
the hob, with the Earth wire DISCONNECTED)

If I measure the voltage, it is about 120v


Which is exactly as you would expect from a noise filtered device.

Do I send it back, or connect it to the non RCD CU!
(I personally would think 120v @ 2.9A leakage to earth is not too clever,


It isn't there. Your measurement ignored the neutral/earth voltage
difference. You would get similar results from any device in the
house.


I would hope I wouldn't (as explained above)

would think it is faulty, but would just like to see what others think)


Connecting lots of things to a single 30mA RCD is a recipe for
nuisance tripping. You seem to have somewhat of an attachment to
RCD's so if you really want one connect the hob to a non-RCD circuit
and put a dedicated RCD on the hob alone.


So I will then get the 2.9A leaking to earth, 24/7 - Do I really want this?

Is not RCD protecting things like this really as wise as people make out?


Yes - whole house RCD's have killed more people than they have saved.


I never asked about whole house RCD's as I don't have one.
(I have a non RCD CU for things like the freezer, fridge, alarm, sub-main
feeds to further CU's in outbuildings (These of course have RCD protection
locally) and a separate RCD for the lighting circuit in the house, and
another one for socket's etc.


Sparks