Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:00:04 -0400, "Proto" wrote:
Gunner wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 13:11:56 -0400, "Proto"
wrote:
Grady wrote:
I think it would best serve your argument of "mass murder" if you
could post some support factual truth. This does not mean some
drivel from some left wing web site either. I will be the first to
admit that the mistakes of a few have caused some shame for the
US, but I don't see anything that remotely resembles "mass
murder".
It is actually very simple. For a nation of the size of the US to
consider bombing a country with over 50% children and to continue
an admitted mistake merely because of the rational that it somehow
would be a mistake to back down now proves it is murder. This is an
issue or morality. A war waged and continued under admitted
falsities is a crime. Plain and simple.
The very best that can be said is that in spite of all the mistakes
that were made is that we must continue?
Sure sounds like an Adolph moment to me.
Proto
Are you claiming that the military targets such as command and
control head quarters, ammo dumps, Republican Guard barracks and so
forth, were filled with 50% children?
Doesnt speak well for Saddam does it?
I consider things like the cluster bombs the US uses along with
land mines in general which in this high tech age are considered by
many to be wrong.
And many, myself included think when properly applied, are right.
Anti personal mines in city combat was never in any book these
present day military leaders ever read.
You are not much of a student of history, are you?
Do you actually believe only military targets
were destroyed and what ever happened along the way is of no
consequence?
Of course not. It sucks to be a civie during a war. You Really need to
do your homework on military history and civilian casualties. How
bout googling "Dresden", then follow up with Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Add Nanking to your reading list.
The families of the 100,000+ dead civilians should be thanking the
US for liberating their country and getting rid of that evil
dictator Sadam instead of wanting an harm to come to their
liberators.
Which 100,000 dead civilians might that be? Ok...Ill play. Cites?
No leftwing blogs are allowed btw.
Let's see that might be a
million if you include relatives. But wait. George said the Iraqis
love us and just have not yet had the chance to throw those flowers
yet.
No..wait ...that million was the number of children starved by the
Embargo. At least, thats what you who live and breath by soundbites
said.
You really dont know much about this or any other war do you? Only
what your absorb from the Leftwing Fringe Kooks. Might want to work
on that issue a bit. It makes you look mighty foolish.
I say we should have stayed home and fixed this county and let those
foreigners fix their own broken government. What the hell is wrong
with that?
Because its far better to fight them on their territory now, then wait
around and have them try to kill you on your territory.
Perhaps you should take some remedial courses in military history,
geopolitics and concentrate on the History Channel before showing your
ass here.
Maybe while you are calling me stupid YOU could cite some examples of how
I am so wrong instead of just saying I don't know history. I am generalizing
when I mention what had been seen as a disadvantage of our troops not having
that type of training and planning. No one ever thought this would be the
result of the Rumsfeld Cake Walk. All the military big brains that sleep
with all those history you mention sure aren't doing to well are they?
I would not care to design the future according to what history tells us of
the past. I would also not look to the past to justify the mistakes or the
present. It is clear that the winners of the wars get to write the history
books.
Proto
Gunner
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child -
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke
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