well, I think I can "bottom that" , so to speak, but not personally - I had
a co-worker years ago who claimed that he had a friend (get the drift of
this) who discovered that in his apt he paid for heat, but not for hot
water. so he got an old car radiator and a fan and ran hot water through it
to heat his place rather than use the electric heat - of course it probably
actually cost 1,000 times as much, but to him it was "free"


"Ivan Vegvary" wrote in message
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Sorting and straightening my shop crap. Am about to run a lot of new
circuits in conduit. Have dozens of old electrical boxes all with
multiple
holes. Sacrificed some of the ugliest (rusty) ones and removed the
knockouts. Yep, welded them into the holes of the new boxes. Kept one
hole, you need one in any case. One quick zap of the wire feed is all it
takes. Is this really cheap, or can somebody give an example of stooping
lower?

Ivan, Sandy Oregon