On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 16:05:46 +0100, "IMM" wrote:



Proof of lowered standards please.

Search on Google. There are dozens of references

That is all opinion.

You didn't look very far then.

One only has to look at A level or degree exam papers of today
compared with 20 years ago, and the drop in standards is patently
obvious.



Yes. Their main aim is a ruling class of people and the upkeep of the
system that maintains this system: fee paying schools, Oxbridge,
aristocracy, land being in the hands of the privileged few, royal family,
etc. A system not based on merit. That is abundantly clear. Only a fool
cannot see it.

Only a fool keeps harping on about it




You have an assumption that those
going to uni are not capable. Tory class
badgering again.

Nothing to do with that. If somebody
doesn't have academic ability,
they don't have academic ability and
that's that.

If they don't, they don't go. Simple.

Right. That has nothing to do with "class".



Class, if indeed
it exists at all, has nothing to do with it.

British society is ingrained with class. It permeates most of society. How
many council estate kids have ever been an ambassador? Only fool cannot see
it.

Who would want to be an ambassador?



I happen to be reasonably able academically. I can't play football
or plaster walls to save my life. People make perfectly good
livings out of both of these.

The last three are mainly working class.

Only in your stereotyped view of life

It is a fact.

Mmmm....

Proof please.

Search on Google.

I see only Tory opinions.

That's curious. Do you think that they have an algorithm in their
search engine that filters to create propaganda?




I used to be subjected to football and cross country running at
school. I hated both and they didn't benefit me one iota because I
was useless at them.

Made you fit.

I had plenty of other ways to do that.

How can you be useless at running? Even if you come last you still run and
it makes you fit.

Because it was presented as something that should be competitive.
I'm not interested in competitive sport. I prefer to make my own
arrangements as with most other things.



You have no idea of how British society is structured.

It isn't structured apart from in the minds of people who see some
political aspect in making it appear to be structured and wanting to
change it.

I have given you a
few books to read. Please read them. Any problems get back to me and I will
clarify.

I don't have time to waste on that kind of nonsense, sorry.



You still don't get it. Only a few own
the vast majority of the land. Our
land, as we own it as we have sovereignty
over it.

Ownership is defined by who holds the title.
End of story.

No. Ownership is the Crown, which filters down to the state. Title gives
you permission to use the land.

I repeat. I will write is slowly as I know you can't think and read fast.

" You still don't get it. Only a few own the vast majority of the land. Our
land, as we own it as we have sovereignty over it."

I think that you just contradicted yourself......

I don't really care whether the Crown or a small number of people own
a large amount of land. I am far more bothered about overtaxation
and wastage by the government.


This acts as a lead weight around the necks of the British people.

Utter tripe.







I don't consider myself to be ripped
off in this regard

Because you don't know. You have
been subject to propaganda over your
lifetime, sucked it in and love it. That is
very sad.

The significant ripping off that is going on
is excessive taxation and
government intervention.

This dissipates your brainwashed perception.

At least 60 tax rises since 1997 with £5k more tax per household?

£10bn public finance deficit by this time next year?

I am far more interested in that than the assets of the Duke of
Westminster, and so, I expect, are most other people.




..andy

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