Dave Liquorice wrote:
On 2 Apr 2005 11:29:32 -0800, velodocuk wrote:


I assume here that the edge of the rubber plunger had gone over a
lip in the piping but no amount of pulling on the rods will get them
to back out - there is only 10-15cm of to and fro movement.


Or you've come out of your 4" pipe into a 9 or 12" under the street.
Is there another manhole vaugely in the same direction and
approximately the right distance away?

With out digging a hole and breaking the pipe open all you can do is
pull and twist (the right way!)

bit late to say it now but that's a very good reason to use lockfast rods