Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 02:39:13 GMT, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 19:19:01 GMT, wmbjk
wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:20:01 GMT, Bruce L. Bergman
wrote:
Demand meters are very rare to unknown on residential services
We had a residential Time Off Use meter in PG&E land as early as about
14 years ago. PG&E sends out reams of crap telling people about TOU
accounts, phantom loads, assistance with audits etc. If Gunner had
read that stuff instead of right-wing blogs, we might have seen a post
like this - "Thank you Gray Davis for helping me save a bunch of
money". LOL
Okay, I'll revise that - Demand meters as a requirement for all
residential customers are not common. For an optional program like
the Time Of Use metering you mention, they are available.
But it you head down that road, you get into overnight ice-banking
refrigeration and air conditioning and other severe conservation
methods. Unfortunately most of those things cost so much to install,
and add extra complexity and maintenance costs, that the payback takes
forever - unless you're talking large commercial buildings with a full
time maintenance staff.
-- Bruce --
Bruce? I live in Taft. We didnt even have caller ID until last year.
No DSL.
And no fancy **** from PG&E
If you read the fine print...in many cases PG&E is unwilling or unable
to offer all those nifty bells and whistles things to those of us in
many small towns.
Ive called them, the PUC, etc etc...and a hell of a lot of the "cool
stuff" they offer to folks in the city, are simply not available here
in Bum****ville
They give you all sorts of bumwipe with the bills, telling you not to
run your air conditioner (dont have one) during certain hours..the
hours where its 110F here in the desert. Do your laundry at 3am.
Dont run appliences during peak hours. Hard for the wife to pull the
reefer out of the built in and unplug it. Particularly when the
cooler is off and its 110F in the house.
After ploughing through all this sort of crap, one simply tosses the
**** in the dumpster. Sort of like killfiling someone who only rarely
comes up with something interesting on a newsgroup. Someone you hate
for their business practices, their attitude and their arrogance.
I understand that in a large portion of the US, the power company now
reads the meter over carrier signals on the power line. Cool.
As a side note...Ive got one of the PG&E power failure communicators
in my water heater room. It dials PG&E over my phone line when there
is a power failure in my neigborhood. Evidently they dont have any of
those fancy bells and whistles either.
Gunner
Leftwingers are like pond scum. They are green, slimy, show up where
they are not wanted, and interfere with the fishing.
Strider
I'm not sure how far the power line carrier reading actually went. I
believe in most areas it was scrapped in favor of short range RF. The
van just drives down the street and polls all the meters as they come
within range.
Pete C.
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