On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:01:15 GMT, the inscrutable Gunner
spake:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:25:52 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:


Im going to go out on a limb here, and get flamed like the dickens
(doning Nomex suit), but if you are just starting, just wanting to
dabble, and if you find you dont like welding and want to get most or
some of your money back....the Lincoln SP 135T mig welder.
Or the SP 135Plus

Bzzzzzt! Beginners are good to go with $200 welders. ($120 in my case)
I'd steer him toward a MIG or the $199 TIG at Harbor Freight instead
of a $700 welder. If bought new, he'd instantly lose $400 minimum if
he tried to resell it. The cheapie might easily resell for the same
price he paid IF he didn't keep it as a backup.

A note..the SP 135T is often found on the net and in the big box
stores for about $350. The Plus version for about $150 more. Which
is why I suggested the T version first off.

Checking www.weldingsupply.com and the 135T is $399, the 135+ is $505.


You will also note I did include a semi-glowing comment and link to
the HF machines G

True. Oh, I was thinking that the Lincolns were going for $1,500 when
I wrote that $400 instant loss figure. It's prolly under $200.


Chiwanese Acupuncturist FRAG GRENADE, aka "wire cup wheel"? Don your
flak vests and double up on gloves and eye protection, guys!

G...indeed. I should note however..that Tom Gardners wire wheels are
the finest Ive ever used and the stickers that I pull out of my hide
are few and far between with his wheels. Absolutly freaking marvelous.
and I use all sizes, including a big assed 5" on the big Milwaukee 9"
grinder.

You did note that his wire wheels were superb already. I'll bet using
a 5-incher on a 9" grinder is a fun thing. Kinda like a pistol-grip
30" power floor waxer, wot?


The wire wheels are pretty darned important if you are welding up
"salveaged" metals...IE..rusty ****. You can get down to bare metal
without grinding the snot out of it, or screwing up the surface
finish.

Yeah, I need to shop with Tom soon.


Im not a "welder". Im whats called in the oil patch..a dauber. G
but I tend to make things that pass the BFH test, if not the Pretty
Test.

The BFH test is where it's at.

Chuckle...indeed.

And that's Big Ford Hammah to you, suh. (Use Sawzalls on Chebbies.)


BTW, it was great talking with you the other day (despite your bloody
cell phone flaking out half a dozen times.) I look forward to the trip
down there in July to fill up my pickup bed. I don't DARE bring a
trailer as I'm sure I'd fill it AND the bed. Ayup, maybe I'm glad I
don't own a knuckle boom truck. g

G It was my pleasure also. Next time we talk, Ill try to not be in
a moving vehicle traveling through the oil fields in all the dead
spots.

It's a deal!


I got all the machines moved. It took me 2 full days of moving not
only my stuff, but helping the crew move all the race cars, welding
trucks, engines, several hundred transmissions and so forth.

Not bad for a fellow who the day before had been in bed for 5
days..nearly unable to move.

And you should have been in bed still. Walking pneumonia can KILL you,
ya know. Hey, after all that, wouldn't they let you leave your stuff
there?


Course..I can barely move today..hurt from head to toe...even my
fingers hurt to type. Shrug...a man has to do what a man has to do.

No doubt.


Sisu.

? (googling, googling, googling, got it from
http://www.sisu.com/en/about

"The Meaning of SISU

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Gunner, going back to bed shortly.

Bueno, bwana. Get well soon.



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