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let's say there where no WMD, even if the French, Russians, Germans,
Saudies, Irealies, US, and every other country with an intelligence
network, had indications that they did.


Wrong. All of the evidence presented was fake, and the intelligence agencies
of most involved countries knew this. As far as I know every single piece of
WMD evidence presented by Bush, Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz, Powell, Rumsfeld,
or any other chickenhawk crony in the WH administration has proven to be
false.

but lets for get all of that and say it was a big lie, nothing but
political
Bull. are you saying that the liberation of a people from a muderious
dictator, was a bad thing, did you know the number of people killed in
Iraq
since the end of the war is less then was killed the previous year under
Saddam,


Not likely. You have no idea how many people were killed under Saddam. One
thing is very likely though, that the US government is responsible for
killing far more Iraqi's than Saddam ever did. And most Iraqi citizens were
better off under Saddam than they are now.

worst case, the president lied and the world is a better place, I can live
with that


How can you even suggest the world is a better place? Tens of thousands of
innocent Iraq civilians, if not more, are now dead as a result of an illegal
invasion. Several hundred tons of exploded DU munitions scattered throughout
Iraq will be killing many more innocent civilians for decades to come. 1500
or more US soldiers are dead and twenty thousand or more US soldiers have
been wounded. Iraq is on the verge of a civil war. The security situation in
Iraq makes it the most dangerous place on earth not only for US troops but
also for civilians of any nationality. Do you think really think American
citizens traveling to Arab or Muslim countries are safer now than before the
invasion? It's going to take many years to undo the damage caused the by the
neocons, not to mention that a sizeable chunk of your tax dollars are going
to be paying for their mistakes for some considerable time. This should give
you something to think about next time you suffer from sticker shock after
filling up at the pumps.