In article . 201, Nate Perkins wrote:
(Doug Miller) wrote in
.com:

In article 01, Nate
Perkins wrote:
(Doug Miller) wrote in
.com:

In article .com,
"Charlie Self" wrote:
Doug Miller states:

On my planet, Saddam is still a murderous tyrant. Has that notion
been
debunked on yours?

Nobody has even suggested Saddam Hussein was less than a murderous
tyrant. What others, and I, feel is that he was not a direct threat
to the U.S. at any time, not likely to become one in a rational time
frame, and thus was not worth the expenditure of life and treasure
that has been applied.

Oh, yes, someone has suggested that, at least implicitly: Nate, in
his response to me, finally acknowledged that there might have been
reasons other than WMDs for invading Iraq, and implied that they've
been debunked too.

Not all of them.

Not on my planet, anyway.

Maybe on Nate's.

Absolutely wrong, Doug. I never ever said that Saddam was less than a
murderous tyrant.

What I said was that Iraq had no WMDs and no ties to Al Qaeda, and
therefore the primary stated reasons for war have been debunked.


Those were not the "primary stated reasons" for the war, as you
continue to falsely claim; rather, they were two reasons among many.
And neither one has been "debunked" as you falsely claim: It's not
proven that Iraq had no WMDs, and they definitely *did* have ties to
al Qaida and numerous other terror organizations.

Those were the primary stated reasons for the war. They figure
prominently in every major speech the administration gave at the time,
including the President's letter to Congress declaring the decision to
go to war. It figures clearly in every major policy speech of the time,
including the Cincinatti speech.

You keep saying that. That does not, however, make it true. The fact is, there
were *other* reasons as well, which *also* figured prominently in every major
speech the administration gave at the time. But you'd rather ignore those;
you've even gone so far as to claim that one of them was never even stated.

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Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt.
And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?