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Bruce L. Bergman
 
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:17:12 -0800, "Harold and Susan Vordos"
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Bruce,
Could you please advise what features a panel for a home would require? I
am familiar with GFCI breakers, but have heard that there are other
requirements in addition. I'm already familiar with ground rods and how
they're to be installed, just confused on newer breaker configurations.

In keeping with my other panels, I'll likely purchase a Square D, 200 amp
panel, with a main breaker. Any advice?


Egad, that's a 100,000 word answer begging for the time to type it
all out (think "War and Peace"...) but I'll hit the highlights.

First, SquareD makes good equipment - but it's all based on brand-
locked proprietary designs, which can be a problem in the future if
they go under or stop making the proprietary parts. It happens - try
finding an XO breaker - or Zinsco Q, or Pushmatic, or...

The QO line is bulletproof - where they try to fool you is with the
Homeline series, it LOOKS like a standard form 1" wide "Industrial
Interchange" breaker, but there are subtle differences in the busses
that make other brands not fit in their panel. (Without modifying the
busses - and cutting into the tin-plated aluminum without replacing
the plating is a recipe for a corrosion disaster in a few years...)

If you want to future-proof, use panels that take either the
Cutler-Hammer/Challenger C-series or Crouse-Hinds/Murray/Siemens MP-
series breakers. They will interchange with each other, and (with
exceptions) GE 'Thick' and SquareD Homeline breakers will fit in them.

The GE panels are good, but they have an odd T-type buss for their
Thin breakers to plug in on, so other brands don't always fit.

Whatever panels you get, insist on all Copper Bussing - you have to
read the labels, they can tin plate the copper. I've seen too many
troubles with aluminum buss going bad to EVER install it willingly.
(Just had to repair a melted aluminum buss in a "Six-Pack" condo
Meter-Main service last week.)

And you can never go too big - if your architect insists that a 125A
panel is plenty, put in a 200A anyway. And the 400A (some rated 325A
continuous) residential services are gaining wider use, you don't need
a standing section anymore - but you do need a wide chunk of wall.
They come with a 200A Main and a 30 to 42-space distribution section
for the house, and a space for mounting a second 200A Main Breaker to
feed another panel at your shop remotely.

For grounding, again, too much is just about right. Bring up a UFER
ground from the foundation steel, and have all the utilities hit the
house in the same area so you can bond the cold water, telephone, CATV
and the gas to a common grounding point.

PLAN AHEAD.

Inside the house insist on running flex or EMT conduit for the
wiring - at least on the panel home runs and the kitchen circuits,
anywhere that things might need to be changed later and you don't have
attic access. With Romex the initial construction costs are far
lower, but every change or addition is a headache - cut open the
walls, patch and paint. With conduit, adding an extra copier circuit
in the back bedroom that just turned into the Home Office is a lot
easier.

Put ceiling fan rated boxes in /every/ room, wired with 2 hots for
fan and light, or make other provisions for overhead lighting power.
Even if you don't use them now a simple canopy blank (painted over)
makes them disappear, and when you do want to add it's not a big
production to hang a fan or fixture. This is especially critical
where you don't have attic access, including out on the big beam of
the Living Room cathedral ceiling. (Easy to do during construction, a
stone cold PITA later.)

For feeding the bedroom circuits in new construction they insist on
an Arc-Fault breaker that works like a ground-fault but looks for bad
outlets and cords and Romex staple-pinches in the walls. I think it's
a gimmick, but the theory is sound. Plan on spending extra for a few
fancy breakers.

Do you like putting up "Holiday Lights"? Plan where the start
points will be, and place several outlets (with Wet-in-use rated
bubble covers) under the eaves, behind the chimney, on the dormer
window poke-outs... A two-pole timer in the garage or wall switch in
the entry hall, and it's all under control.

Each bathroom gets it's own 20A circuit and local GFCI receptacle.
I've split them up in a few 3-bathroom houses where they have 3
teenage girls all trying to get ready for school (with hair-dryers) at
the same time each morning, and this simply doesn't work with one
common GFCI circuit looped to all the bathrooms...

More later... (WORK - a four letter word.)

-- Bruce --
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Bruce L. Bergman, Woodland Hills (Los Angeles) CA - Desktop
Electrician for Westend Electric - CA726700
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