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Steve W.
 
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"Jerry Martes" wrote in message
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"Steve W." wrote in message
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Jim, you are correct. The antenna is the vertical element and the
vehicle is the ground plane. That is why the coax is grounded at

both
ends and one small open area causes noise. Some of the new antennas

are
hidden in the glass with the defroster, or just in the glass around

the
edge. Then there are diversity antennas that have 4 antennas

embedded in
the bumper covers or other plastic trim. Those are connected to a

box
that senses the different signal levels and uses the strongest.

Anyone
who thinks otherwise doesn't know how a radio signal functions.

--
Steve Williams

Steve


I'm surprized that you state that anyome who doesnt accept that the

car is
a ground plane doesnt know how radio signals function.. I assume

that you
agree that the impinging radio signal is vertically polarized. I

asume you
also are considering cars that are only about 1 or 2 electrical

degrees
high. Can a conductor that small (short) be considered a "Ground

Plane"??

I didnt realize that cars had been equipped with an AM antenna

systems
that select one or more of several probes in the trim and/or bumpers.

That
seems to be unnecessary complexity, but it must provide some

improvement.
Where can I find more information on the car that has the 4 embeded
antennas?

Jerry



Jerry,
The chassis of the vehicle is the ground plane of the antenna on every
vehicle I have ever seen. The vehicle height is not how the ground plane
is measured, it is measured by the amount of continuous connected
conductive surface area located around the antenna whip. That is also
why radio stations fade at different amounts based on which direction
the vehicle is headed. The different amount of ground plane relative to
the location of the whip on the vehicle changes the received signal
strength.

AM/FM broadcast signals are both vertically polarized. Have been for a
long time.

Lots of diversity equipped vehicles out there. Most of them are high end
luxury cars but there are a few pedestrian models as well. The town car
is one, Mercedes has a couple as well as BMW and Audi.

If you really want to see a strange antenna system take a look at the
ones used by XM and Sirius. Short vertical antenna to receive a circular
polarized signal that alters its angle of reflection as you move.



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