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On 22 Feb 2005 17:42:52 GMT, Dan Murphy wrote:

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On 22 Feb 2005 07:27:06 GMT, Dan Murphy wrote:

Cliff wrote in
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http://www.christslove.com/gangbang/President/lie.htm

Hey Cliffie, you need to find smarter links. Lincoln and Madison
were Founders of the nation? PFFFT. Did you go to school? What did
they teach there?

What, you don't know who James Madison was?

Were you home skooled?

Hal

What's a founding father? Is it someone who signed the Declaration of
Independence, thereby putting themselves and their fortunes in grave
peril? Or is it someone that debated and voted on the Constitution
after the war was won? What do you consider the founding document of
this country? Was Lincoln fighting the Redcoats? Cliff seems to think
so...

Again, you don't know who James Madison was?
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jm4.html

When delegates to the Constitutional Convention assembled at
Philadelphia, the 36-year-old Madison took frequent and emphatic part
in the debates.

Madison made a major contribution to the ratification of the
Constitution by writing, with Alexander Hamilton and John Jay, the
Federalist essays. In later years, when he was referred to as the
"Father of the Constitution," Madison protested that the document was
not "the off-spring of a single brain," but "the work of many heads
and many hands."

In Congress, he helped frame the Bill of Rights and enact the first
revenue legislation. Out of his leadership in opposition to Hamilton's
financial proposals, which he felt would unduly bestow wealth and
power upon northern financiers, came the development of the
Republican, or Jeffersonian, Party.
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You don't have any right criticizing anyone when you don't even know
who James Madison was.


I know who Madison was. Can't you read? I said he took part in writing
the constitution. I'll type slower for you next time.

Dan