On 18 Feb 2005 12:27:42 -0800, jim rozen wrote:
In article , Dave Hinz says...

I think I should be allowed to disregard the posted speed
limits. It's only unskilled drivers who pose a danger to
themselves and others on the road, by driving above the
speed limit.

You are continuing to miss the point. You keep coming up
with examples that are unsafe for anyone, equally. Alcohol
can't NOT make you a worse driver. It's a biological
influence. Running a red light, (if by "running" you
mean "ignore and go through without looking") is unsafe
for anyone, equally.

No. I *always* look both ways before going through a red
light. That makes me a super-safe driver, so I should be
allowed to do that.

That's not "running a red light" in any defintion I can think of,
but whatever.

Only the poor drivers don't look both ways,
and crash when they go through red lights.

Anyone not stopping and looking both ways at a red light is
subjecting themselves and others to the same risk - who it is
doesn't matter, it's what they do. That's an example of an unsafe
act, which is already illegal.

We should make stopping at red lights optional, but only
punish the bad drivers who crash when doing so.

You're, once again, equating an inherently unsafe act with
talking on the cellphone, which sometimes coincides with people
doing inherently unsafe acts.

Don't ticket
the act of passing through a red light, only ticket actual poor
driving as demonstrated by crashing.

This is exactly the same as your view of cell phone use as
far as I can determine.

What is this, national "Mis-state Dave's point" day?