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Mark & Juanita
 
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On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:04:33 GMT, "Bob Schmall" wrote:


"Mark & Juanita" wrote in message
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 08:22:48 -0600, "Bob Schmall"
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I was hardly irate, so don't attribute that to me. My concern was not with
the community taking reasonable precautions to protect its citizens and
its
corporate self. I feel that what information was sought was far beyond
anything necessary to determine my qualifications. In fact, I have been
asked to grant virtually unrestricted access to personal information, much
of it completely irrevelant to the job. I was also asked to waive my
rights
seek redress if the information was mishandled. I doubt that the form is
"typical." If it is, we're just that much closer to a police state.


Actually, if you think about it, that's not quite true. In something
close to a police state, they would simply be asking you (police state --
they would be demanding) for the information and not worrying about
whether
you cared about how it was used or misused.


I did not say this was a police state. Taking your example, it IS something
close to a police state when the information is required in order to get the
job--that's coercion, however mild. Once again, I'll say that the
authorities are justified in conducting a background check for anyone in a
sensitive position. My concern is that they are asking for too much leeway
in seeking it and are asking me sign away my rights.


I didn't say you said it was a police state, thus my comment about "in
close to a police state they would just ask and not care ..." As far as
your conclusion, I certainly agree, it seems like a pretty heavy-handed
agreement (sort of a government equivalent of a EULA -- you give up all
your rights, they keep all theirs and more). ... and you are right, it is
coercion, particularly if everbody starts doing this. Certainly not part
of a trend heading in the right direction.




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