On 1 Feb 2005 14:05:09 -0800, jim rozen wrote:
In article 01c5087d$fb8bbb20$55a3c3d8@race, Bob Paulin says...

appreciate it if anybody could help....

Your wait is over. Link to this site:

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi

The off-topic chatter is relegated to the manufacturing section
for the most part. Because most of the rest of the board
is moderated, they don't tolerate the cliff-like nonsense.

Thing is, whatever this "cliff" thing is, is obviously easily
enough filtered with a simple killfile entry. Why would someone want
to go to a site that may just vanish some day, when filtering out
most of the trollish behavior is trivially simple?