On 29 Jan 2005 12:40:38 -0800, "
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Mammoths had died out toward the end of the Pleistocene Epoch, about
11,000 years ago, although scientists have found the remains of dwarf
Mammoths that survived until around 3,700 years ago on Wrangel Island
in the Arctic Ocean.

There are a number of Native American legends that discuss
mammoths..or stiff legged animals with a flexible appendage for a
nose...far later than 11,000 yrs ago. Rather interesting stuff

http://www.mormonfortress.com/elph.html
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"The oral traditions, written records, and artwork depicting elephants
lends strong support for the claim that the elephant existed in
ancient America. Even more substantial support-- actual remains-- have
also been discovered. Today all scholars agree that mastodons and
mammoths (which are unquestionably elephants to zoologists) once lived
in the Americas. The dispute today is how late they lived. According
to the Book of Mormon they need not have lived later than 2400 B.C.
Within recent years archaeological evidence has demonstrated that the
elephant could very well have survived to such a late date. Butchered
mastodon bones were recently discovered at one archaeological site
which dates to shortly after the time of Christ. Another site, dating
to approximately 100 B.C. has yielded the remains of a mammoth, a
mastodon, as well as a horse (Sorenson, 1985, pgs., 297-8).

Some scholars have suggested that the elephant (mammoth or mastodon)
lived later than hitherto believed. Ludwell Johnson, in an article
entitled “Men and Elephants in America” published in Scientific
Monthly, wrote that “Discoveries of associations of human and
proboscidean remains [Elephantine mammals, including, elephants,
mammoths, and mastodons] are by no means uncommon. As of 1950,
MacCowan listed no less than twenty-seven” including, as noted by Hugo
Gross, a “partly burned mastodon skeleton and numerous potsherds at
Alangasi, Ecuador” (Johnson, 1).

Johnson goes on to explain that “There can no longer be any doubt that
man and elephant coexisted in America.... Probably it is safe to say
that American Proboscidea have been extinct for a minimum of 3000
years” (Johnson, 2). If the elephants had died off at least 3000 years
ago, they would still have been well within range of the Jaredite era.
And as noted above, some evidence indicates that the elephant may have
survived in limited numbers for centuries later."


Gunner

"Considering the events of recent years,
the world has a long way to go to regain
its credibility and reputation with the US."
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