"Dan Murphy" wrote in message
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Cliff wrote in
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snip
I'm done. There's no point.
Dan
If you have not read it perhaps you and others might want to read it so that
you can understand what "The Virus" really suffers from :
This is following is a post from Michael Gailey to alt.machi*nes.cnc.
and is buried in a thread called "CADDS 5 Help". It seemed *to me that
it would be helpful for others to see so that they can gain *an
understanding about what the real problem is and perhaps con*vince the
person to get some badly needed help.
From: Michael
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 17:20:10 GMT
"Cliff wrote:
On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 00:35:32 GMT, Michael
wrote:
You don't need to whine & snivel.
Just learn.
More groveling would be nice too G.
HTH
Yet another dodge of my question.
Have you ever heard of Narcissistic Personality Disorder?
See explanation above for clues.
Michael
Michael,
A) You usually post a load of BS about some term you
have *heard of*, just like jb did/does. You make most
of it up without actually knowing much. Usually things
are NOT as you imagined.
This makes your posts full of bad information. Some
may actually not know any better of later find your junk
in the archives when searching for valid information.
Oh, you need the links to verify what I posted, no problem.
I suppose another of Cliff's Urban Legends has been exposed.
Go see if this describes you Cliff.
There may still be time for you to get help.
http://www.mentalhealth.com/dis1/p21-pe07.html
http://www.halcyon.com/jmashmun/npd/
http://www.healthyplace.com/communit...orders/narciss...
http://www.healthyplace.com/communit...orders/narciss...
http://www.healthyplace.com/Communit...orders/Site/Tr...
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...nality+Disorde...
B) You very clearly don't care about truth or you just
might check some of your BS first. ALL you care about
is posting your guesses and then objecting when someone
else corrects your nearly endless misinformation.
Here is a snippet derived from the American Psychiatric Asso*ciation:
Malignant Self Love - Narcissism Revisited
Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)
Definition, Fact Sheet and Tips
What is Narcissism?
A pattern of traits and behaviors which signify infatuation *and
obsession with one's self to the exclusion of all others and* the
egotistic and ruthless pursuit of one's gratification, domin*ance and
ambition.
Most narcissists (75%) are men.
NPD is one of a "family" of personality disorders (formerly *known as
"Cluster B").
Other members: Borderline PD, Antisocial PD and Histrionic P*D.
NPD is often diagnosed with other mental health disorders
("co-morbidity") - or with substance abuse, or impulsive and* reckless
behaviors ("dual diagnosis").
NPD is new (1980) mental health category in the Diagnostic a*nd
Statistics Manual (DSM).
There is only scant research regarding narcissism. But what *there is
has
not demonstrated any ethnic, social, cultural, economic, gen*etic, or
professional predilection to NPD.
It is estimated that 0.7-1% of the general population suffer* from NPD.
Pathological narcissism was first described in detail by Fre*ud. Other
major contributors a Klein, Horney, Kohut, Kernberg, Mill*on,
Roningstam, Gunderson, Hare.
The onset of narcissism is in infancy, childhood and early a*dolescence.
It is commonly attributed to childhood abuse and trauma infl*icted by
parents, authority figures, or even peers.
There is a whole range of narcissistic reactions - from the *mild,
reactive and transient to the permanent personality disorder*.
Narcissists are either "Cerebral" (derive their narcissistic* supply
from
their intelligence or academic achievements) - or "Somatic" *(derive
their narcissistic supply from their physique, exercise, phy*sical or
sexual prowess and "conquests").
Narcissists are either "Classic" - see definition below - or* they are
"Compensatory", or "Inverted" - see definitions he "The I*nverted
Narcissist".
NPD is treated in talk therapy (psychodynamic or cognitive-b*ehavioral).
The prognosis for an adult narcissist is poor, though his ad*aptation to
life and to others can improve with treatment. Medication is* applied to
side-effects and behaviors (such as mood or affect disorders* and
obsession-compulsion) - usually with some success.
Please read CAREFULLY!
The text in italics is NOT based on the Diagnostics and Stat*istics
Manual, Fourth Edition-Text Revision (2000).
The text in italics IS based on "Malignant Self Love - Narci*ssism
Revisited", fourth, revised, printing (2003)
An all-pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behav*iour), need
for admiration or adulation and lack of empathy, usually beg*inning by
early adulthood and present in various contexts. Five (or mo*re) of the
following criteria must be met:
Feels grandiose and self-important (e.g., exaggerates achiev*ements and
talents to the point of lying, demands to be recognized as s*uperior
without commensurate achievements)
Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fears*ome power
or
omnipotence, unequalled brilliance (the cerebral narcissist)*, bodily
beauty or sexual performance (the somatic narcissist), or id*eal,
everlasting, all-conquering love or passion
Firmly convinced that he or she is unique and, being special*, can only
be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate wi*th, other
special or unique, or high-status people (or institutions)
Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affi*rmation -
or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious (n*arcissistic
supply)
Feels entitled. Expects unreasonable or special and favorabl*e priority
treatment. Demands automatic and full compliance with his or* her
expectations
Is "interpersonally exploitative", i.e., uses others to achi*eve his or
her own ends
Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with o*r
acknowledge the feelings and needs of others
Constantly envious of others or believes that they feel the *same about
him or her
Arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes coupled with rage *when
frustrated, contradicted, or confronted
C) Even after all that you usually persist with your
misinformation way past any point of sanity.
If you think I posted misinformation, please read the last s*nippett
again.
D) You are a gun-toting winger, living in fear
& denial of much truth.
I have a legal permit to protect myself.
E) You at times seem to do the Sunday Fundie thing.
That is your paranoia talking again.
F) You seem incapable of learning much.
Back to the NPD snippet.
G) You are loads of fun G.
I don't think you are capable of having fun, mental illness *does that
to
people. Get some help Cliff.
Michael
HTH
--
Michael Gailey
Artistic CNC Mill, Router and Engraver Programming
3D modeling for Product Design and Development
http://www.microsystemsgeorgia.com/toc.htm "
My thanks to Michael for the post and hope others benefit fr*om it as I
have.
jon