Maybe your right...not sure. You just didn't convince me. The can says
tung oil. Who should I believe, some guy ranting on the internet with no
real argument other than speculation or the can in front of me that says
tung oil?


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No. The Arm-R-Seal is basically poly. The Seal-A-Cell is nothing more
than an oil/varnish mixture. It contains no real tung oil, shouldn't
be called "tung oil" just like the Minwax product shouldn't. In fact,
both are almost identical and contain linseed oil rather than tung oil.
Tung oil is a marketting catch phrase that is misleading nowadays.

Check your can. If hasn't been sitting on the shelf for a while,
you'll see that General Finishes has taken all reference to "tung oil"
off their label and literature and now just refer to "oil". Minwax
should follow their lead. But I wouldn't get to hung up on the type of
oil. There's nothing special about tung oil vs. linseed oil anyhow,
and not enough of ANY oil in the GF product to matter too terribly much
- especially if you overcoat it.

These are the facts. Take it or leave it. I'm done with this thread.

Brian.


stoutman wrote:
Brian,

Wow, you are really convincing. What leg work did you do for me?
All you
do is speculate.

Your logic:

"but Seal-A-Cell and Arm-R-Seal are basically just poly" because the
price
of pure tung oil is more expensive than Seal-A-Cell.

hmm. Seal A Cell is not "pure" tung oil. I never claimed that and
neither
does GF. How can you compare the price of "pure" tung oil with a
finish
that is a some percentage of tung oil? When you buy "pure" tung oil,
how do
you know you are getting "pure" tung oil? Do you have access to an
hplc?

Again, how can you compare the drying time of "pure" tung oil with a
finish
that is a mixture of tung oil and urethane? Apples and oranges
Brian. Come
on man.

Marketing hype?? Why not ad "conspiracy theory" while your at it.

If this is all you have to base your decision on regarding the
presence of
Tung oil in Seal-A-Cell (Lets review, 1. price, 2. drying time, 3.
marketing
hype) then ... VERY weak.

So you are under the impression that GF is marketing Seal-A-Cell as a
tung
oil/varnish mix and it is really "basically just poly". Hmmm. You
must be
right Bri. You certainly convinced me..




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stoutman wrote:
Arm-R-Seal pretty much *is* poly for all intents
and purposes, while Seal-A-Cell only contains slightly more oil.


Bri, What lab did you have it analyzed at for its percent tung oil
content?
How do you know it has no (or very little) tung oil in it? What
are
you
baseing this on?


LOL. Alright, well, if you're not willing to do any legwork of
your
own to discover what is common knowledge, then so be it. But why
not
compare the cost of high quality natural tung oil to the cost of
synthetic resins, and then come to a more educated conclusion as to
its
assay based on the price of a quart of Seal-A-Cell. Why not
compare
the drying time of a month or so for real tung oil to the drying
time
of under one day for Seal-A-Cell, and then decide if there's really
enough tung oil (or other oil) in it to make a difference? Or at
the
very least, why not just be open to the possibility that there's no
less marketing hype in commerical wood finishing products than in
anything else you see advertised every single day?

Brian.

Brian.