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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:37:46 -0500, geoman wrote:
Now, Trane and American Standard equipment are about the best Heat Pumps
money can buy, but the companies LIE about their names. I have seen, and
Ohio Edison has pointed out that just because a unit says 11 seer on it that
it isn't! Our main inspector wanted me to get him some equipment at his
home and he choose another brand because of the ARI ratings of Trane, they
lie on their equipment labels, at least five years ago they did. The ARI
numbers were TERRIBLE on 12 seers. To get the 12 seer rating you had to put
the kitchen sink into it! But the reliability of the units were and are the
very best.
Rich, can you expand on this a bit? I'm a bit confused. you say that Trane
and AS are great, but companies lie about their names. What do you mean by
this?
Now, what ticks me off is the cost of the higher COP and SEER units,
American standard especially. Talk about over priced! They increase the
coil size by 5 -10% which improves BTU capacity, They then use a smaller
compressor that produces more BTU's since the coil is bigger, and then they
charge upwards to a$1000 more for them! Heck, I can get Geothermal units
for the same price as Tranes 12 seer unit!
Just my opinion. but the major reason is coils size which allows a smaller
compressor AND a lower amperage fan motor since their is more free air over
the coil.
Rich
This too is pretty amazing. If it's as simple as that for the normal high
SEER units? I'm assuming that the super high SEER units, like the Carrier 18
SEER system with R410A pull out the stops to get a SEER that high and
actually cost more to manufacture. Or is it all just marketing...
This is Turtle.
Your listening to a HVAC service man speaking and see's a lot more that the
average person what goes on in the hvac business and as whole and not just a
customers point of view. All manufactor / brands of hvac equipment lie from time
to time and if you think bad about one you will have to think bad about all of
them. In the HVAC business Manufactor have salemenship first and then
Qualityship last.
Answer to your last question here. The answer is SALEMENSHIP !
TURTLE