"toller" wrote in message
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Hey toller, can you post a pic of your table over on ABPW?
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My internet company doesn't do ABPW, but I already posted a picture of it
on
my website to show the person I am building it for.
http://www.frontiernet.net/~toller/table.jpg

You can see the area I am concerned about in the lower left. The shelf is
butternut, the grain goes the length of the table. The shelf support is
walnut, grain goes perpendicular to the shelf.

The grain in the side panel is the same direction as the shelf and the
top.

(The top is on temporarily, just to show proportions. It still has to
have
a finished edge put on it.)



Thanks for posting that link toller. It's much easier to consider these
things with the visual. I would not worry about the cross grain condition
presented by the shelf supports on the ends of the table. Remember that the
movement numbers you see in the charts are for unconstrained wood and you
have wood that is constrained by the assembly. Look at the table in your
kitchen for example - it has this very same construction. Look at styles
and rails in a typical face frame construction - same thing. Cross grain
construction does not make an absolute problem condition.

There - having said all of that... this thread has gone on long enough that
I need to ask - were you originally posing your questions because you are
concerned for cross grain construction as a principle, or because you are
dealing with a problem? If memory serves, you did not state a real problem,
but more of a concern. But then again, I've often had to admit that my
memory was the second thing to go...


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-Mike-