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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
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Steve@carolinabreezehvac wrote:
How about you go ahead and send a check to the family of a good friend

of
mine that just died from lung cancer....never smoked a day in his life,

no
one in his family smokes, and he was well enough off that he lived well,

and
took good care of himself..
I figure it cost him close to a million the last couple of years to

prolong
his life....



Yeah, everybody knows a story. Cancer generally requires two things to

exist
for it to occur: a genetic predisposition (cancer does run in families)

and an
environmental trigger. That trigger could be cigarette smoke, though it

could
be other things as well. This is how some folks smoke and don't get

cancer and
others don't smoke and do get cancer. Both factors need to exist.

That being said, cigarettes cause more cardiac deaths than lung cancer.

If a
person has a 70% blockage of his coronary arteries, he may well be free of
symptoms. Then he fires one up: the nicotine causes vasoconstriction.

He may
then have a heart attack. (My percentages are off the top of my head but

I
attended enough seminars to know the general idea is correct).

So your friend spent close to a million dollars, did he? After our good

friend
Gary claimed smokers cost less because they don't live as long, he now

wants
access to that same kind of money to extend his smoke ridden life. This

is
cheaper?


He had the money...so what? It was to make a point you failed to see.


As I see it, he has the right to do what he wants right up to the point it
affects me. He's free to smoke; I just don't want anyone to smoke around

me.
Nobody smokes in my house. If you come to visit, you'll leave your

cigarettes
in the car.


Nah...see...if THAT was the case, you need to get everyone to stop driving,
shut down EVERY oil and coal furnace in the country, and for sure need to
make sure that no one EVER fires up a BBQ in the summer.
You home has more carcenigens in it than a truckload of smokes....but you
knew that as a RN right?
Hope its not brick....or you own a TV, or anything like a computer
monitor...no fiberglass insulation in it either..all that contributes to
cancers...but you knew that right?




I have a friend who smokes. He abides by my rules in my house. I don't

visit
him because that's *his* house, and I don't make the rules there. Nor do

I have
to suffer from his smoke (my sinuses close almost immediately).



So I assume you have the same problem with you enter your home...since its a
proven fact that most homes indoor air is up to 10X more dirty than the air
outside...or are you allergic to tobacco?


You want to smoke? Do it elsewhere. Smoke free sections in a restaurant

work
as well as pee free sections of a swimming pool. Have you ever noticed

how
smokers smoke in a restaurant? They smoke up until their food arrives,

put the
cigarettes out, and then fire up again after they've eaten. Never mind

that 3/4
of the restaurant hasn't finished *their* food.


Funny....as a smoker, thats not how I smoke, but I will consider it from now
on.
I also tend to try to accept other peoples point of view, but I figure if
you are going to enter a place that you know that they allow smoking, and
then complain about it, then thats YOUR problem, not mine.
Also, as someone that designs, and repairs HVAC systems in these places that
you talk about, you DO know that no matter where you go in such an
establishment, you are subjected to the same smoke that you probably claim
you cant tell is there.
We have designed several systems just for folks like you and it adds
normally 5 to 10 THOUSAND dollars to the typical commercial
installation....dont blame the smoker for the air inthe place not being to
your liking, blame it on the owner that didnt really care to cater to you.

But yet, in your home, where the air will be up to 10X more dirty than in
that same establishment, you dont have anything but a fiberglass filter, no
heat recovery units, UV lamps like are used in almost EVERY hospitals HVAC
system, or anything resembling a decent air filtration system...and if you
DO consider it, you gripe over the cost...yet if you walk into my home, you
wont even know a smoker lives there....but then I knew that I was gonna put
in the ERVs HRVs and UVCs when I bought the home....I am more worried about
the fiberglass, asbestos and chemicals I work with than the 10 or so
Marlboros I smoke daily.


If you enter a restaurant that allows smoking, then you get to allow the
smokers to smoke as they wish...and if you complain in one that I am in, and
complain about MY smoke, that is your right, but its also my right to tell
you to leave, deal with it, or stop interupting my meal.
I also have the right to reach over and bitchslap you, knowing that you have
the right to press charges, but remember, its my right to defend my rights
as well...

Rights my ass...where is it written that you have the right to tell me how
to control what I do, in a place that allows it? Hint : You dont.

I will tell you this, as someone that works on such equipment, including the
refrigeration end of restaurants, the air quality is the least of my
worries...bet you havent seen the inside of most coolers, or
freezers.....yet you eat that food....
There is only one place that I service, that I will eat at. I have yet to
find any restaurant that has a clean cooler area, and what I love is when
you get the call to come fix the cooler, to find that its been down for 3
days, and the ONLY reason you are getting called out to repair it, is that
an inspection is due...

Bigger things to worry about than cig smoke....especially when you figure,
(and being in Carolina as am I you should know this) that the medical
profession profits hugely off this, and if you shut down the industry
tomorrow, in 20 years you wont have a job.
Well...you might...I am sure that the doctors will find something else to
profit from....and they will need RNs that know what they are doing...





Do it elsewhere....








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Mortimer Schnerd, RN