On 19 Nov 2004 07:32:20 -0500, wrote:

Gary R. Lloyd wrote:

...we can enjoy "human health and comfort" with less energy
consumption if we do air sealing first.

Show me.

Done that, several times now.

You forgot to show me the health and comfort part.

That's your job, as a higher-humidity proponent. You've seen the comfort
part (ASHRAE 55-2004) several times now. I'm not sure health has much
to do with low humidity. At any rate, unlike mechanical humidification,
air sealing can raise humidity while lowering vs raising fuel bills.

You are the one who wants to seal people up in a bubble and pump in
the air. It is up to you to show us that it is healthy and foolproof.

Herbach and Rademan (800) 848-8001 http://www.herbach.com sell a nice
brass $4.95 Navy surplus humidistat, item number TM89HVC5203, with a
20-80% range, a 3-6% differential, and a 7.5A 125V switch that can be
wired to open or close on humidity rise.

And if the control fails?

We suffocate like dogs.

Is this an example of showing me?

No. This is an example of humor.

As was my response to it.

People in dry climates are acclimated to their environment, and thus
would have no problem with low humidity. People who suffer through
high temperature and humidity throughout the summer are not equipped
to put up with low humidity in the winter.

In what sense? How do you know? Where is your evidence?

I have no intention of proving anything.

Good idea. Perhaps you recall your last attempt at proving something,
in which you confused dew point and wet bulb temps :-)

I didn't confuse anything. I offered a rough rule of thumb based on
DB, and said it was a rough rule of thumb.

That was this time. Last time (in August of 2002) you confused dew point
and wet bulb temps. It's surprising how little hvac "tech method gurus"
know about physics.

The two are close enough to be considered the same for practical
purposes, but then you are not concerned with what is practical, so we
can't expect you to understand.

...my grandmother's antique dining room set doesn't like low
humidity, so that settles it.

Is it better to airseal your house to assuage the feelings of your
grandmother's antique dining room set, or humidify the house and
dramatically increase the fuel bill and invade Iran to keep the price
of oil low? :-)

Let's try to stay on subject, shall we?

People are different. Avoiding Middle-East wars is a primary motivation
for using less fossil fuels, in my case.

Wars are a diversionary tactic. "LOOK OVER THERE. ITS A WAR"

Chacun a sa guerre.

http://dailydig.bruderhof.org/us/TodaysDig.htm

Funny article. Well written.


Gary R. Lloyd CMS
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