p_j did say:

If anything liberals of today and the past such as Jefferson and Smith
suggested that one obstacle, the requirement that parasites like the
hordes at the republican welfare trough should be required to wipe their
own asses.

Comparing Thomas Jefferson to either of the two major parties is
ridiculous. Thomas Jefferson was absolutely a liberal. He believed in self
government. That is the true liberal viewpoint. Dems and GOPs of
today are far removed from the ideals of our founding fathers.

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