Madeuce responds:

on the comment of the 30-06 the greatest combat rifle in history is the
M-1 Garand and fires this round "semi-automatically" and is more accurate
than
most hunting rifles after sustained fire. the founding fathers had both a
disdain and dislike for any government and intended for us to be able to
protect ourselves from said government, and some need to check the definition
of militia at the time that line was wrote. btw charlie you should change to
#
4 buck for that defensive load, has a much better pattern for dissuading
invaders whatever they may be. and just to keep on topic some of the finest
woodworking i have ever seen was on double rifles and shotguns, and some even
on war issue mausers and springfields

I agree with the M1. It was what I got through Parris Island and four years of
the USMC with.

I think you're also right about the load. A lighter load might do a *safer*
job, maybe keep me from blowing my little mutt away by accident.

At 10 miles from the nearest town, I am not particularly worried about
encroachment, shall we call it, in my home, but should it happen, I have no
intention of waiting 15-20 minutes for a deputy to arrive.

Charlie Self
"When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not
hereditary." Thomas Paine