RonB wrote:
Does it hold a 4x8 sheet flat with the tailgate closed? That's my
standard of "A truck" versus "A family car"


My Chevy 2500HD, 8.1L Shortbed won't hold a 4x8sheet with the tailgate
closed. It will pull a 33', 12,000 pound 5th wheel trailer with a 2,000
pound pin weight over a 10,000 ft mountain pass in 2nd or 3rd gear at 55
MPH. It also barely squats with topsoil heaped over the wheel wells.

It isn't a family car!

My friends range rover can carry a full size 8x4 sheet inboard with the
tailgate shut, and is used as a family car: http://www.rangie.com/