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JE
 
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So basically just to get things clear in my mind

1) The Cable A Earth (green and yellow) isnt being used as earth, but
as a live cable to supply terminal 3 (from god knows where)?

2) The join between Cable A Neutral (blue) -Cable C Live (brown)
needs to maintained and permanently connected with connector strip
within the new C27 ?

3) Cable D must be the mains supply, (as it's the only cable with all
three wires going to the corresponding EP2000 Earth, Line and Neutral
terminals. Any idea on what the other 3 cables could be used for by
looking at the picture? (note there is also a fused single switch for
the controller to the right of the EP2000, but I assume this is just
in series and supplies the power to the controller and therefore
doesnt supply any other cables in the controller)


If 1 is correct, then Id never had thought that people would use spare
wires without at least putting the correct colured insulating tape
over them. Good idea on the 6 core - if u do this thing regularly.

Thanks for the FAQ link too - I now know what the 10/16 EP2000 switch
is for.

Cheers,

J.

"Ed Sirett" wrote in message on.co.uk...
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 11:02:24 -0700, JE wrote:

Im attempting to replace my aging potterton EP2000 controller with a
Horstmann C27 controller. Now the instructions for the C27 show kindly
show a table for converting the wiring for the EP2000 to the C27.
However, having opened up the EP2000, the wiring isnt as straight
forward as I thought. The Ep2000 is connected to a Potterton NettaHeat
conventional cast iron boiler (circa mid-late 80s), both of which are
currently working fine.

Now only having very basic electrician skills, it looks as if this is
possible to wire (from the instructions), but since seeing the wiring
its now clear that I may need assistance from some experienced/wise
bod. ( as the EP2000 instructions werent in the house when I bought
it. )

I've included a couple of pics to help explanation.

The EP2000 to C27 conversion table and the EP2000 basic-wiring sticker
shown here http://81.106.39.40/boiler/back.jpg
The crazy wiring can be seen here http://81.106.39.40/boiler/front.jpg
(ive labelled the wries with letters to aid means of description if
anyone can shed any light !)

Alas Ive no idea to what each of the 4 cables attaches (as I have
precisely zero knowledge of boilers) as I was expecting the wiring to
be a tad simpler.

My current visual observations a
1) The Lives of cables D & B seem to be wired together, but route to
via terminal 5, which isnt listed in the conversion table (it only
goes 1-4). This doesnt seem to be doing anything.
2) terminals 1 & 2 dont currently have any cables attached, (which
according to the conversion table should supply the control signals
for HW OFF and CH OFF ). Ive no idea why - perhaps the controller only
needs to enable leccy flow when the units it is ON.


Only a few systems and controls need a powered OFF signal.
(mainly those with non Honeywell style zone valves and 3-port valves).


3) terminal 3 (which should be HW ON according to the C27 conversion
table) has the Earth of cable A connected. Strange ??????



If anyone could advise on how I should wire up the existing 4 cables
to the new C27 controller (to L N E, HW OFF, HW ON, CH OFF, CH ON )
then Id be very appreciative.

Many thanks in advance ....


As you can see from the wiring diagrams the two controllers are almost
identical.

The wiring for N L 1 2 3 4 is the same in both cases.
The C27 unit does not need the extra wire from L to 5 as its '5' is
internally connectd to L. The brown wire from cable B will go to L.


Terminal B is just a spare connector
Cales B&D are live as you say.

The person who wired this up committed the great sin of using the green
and yellow wire in cable as the HW demand.

To avoid the sort of crap you have here I have just spent £30 on a reel of
six core mains cable. It means not only do you not have a stack of blue
and brown wires doing several things but often less cables as well...

Read the main FAQ on CH controls. It will help you a lot.