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otforme (Charlie Self) wrote in
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Swingman notes:

But then there's no lack of assholes on either side ...

Amen!

Charlie Self
"Bore, n.: A person who talks when you wish him to listen." Ambrose
Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

What there are, unfortunately, are few attractive options...

Patriarch,
who seldom, if ever, enters these discussions...