On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 04:51:41 GMT, "Martin H. Eastburn"
vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:
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My posting as a reply to you was probably ill-chosen. My rant is about
the idea that the wife wants to feed the birds, but complains about
something else. It's also about deciding to feed wild populations,
thus possibly creating an imbabalce with unknown consequences, just
for fun. We do a lot of it already, but mostly for at least food or
profit.
I gave up being nice to anything, as in feeding/encouraging. I find
that most animals will, with or without encouragement, become a
nuisance one way or another given time. But I don't shoot anything
either. I gave that up as well. It got to be depressing and boring,
apart from useless.
I have, as I said 60Ha of land, with a lot of trees. I also try to
grow fruit, and other stuff. I am sure that some silly ******* nearby
will be feeding the cute little parrots that eat all my fruit.
BTW, shooting rabbits is not a viable way to eradicate them, in Oz at
least. And BTW, apparently I was somewhat right in my "history
lesson", but the rabbit _shooters_ also helped the rabbit spread! Once
again humans were the main problem. My point stands.
http://rubens.anu.edu.au/student.pro...s/history.html
The myxo and Calesi were also failures partly because of human
****-ups, greed, short-sightedness and stupidity. The Calesi virus was
doing very well, with populations falling to the point where foxes and
cats were starting to die out, and in natures' cute was, started
making more of a mess of the native animals as well! G But of course
the rabbits started getting immunity. There were two research teams
trying to bring out new strains of virus fast enough to beat the
immunity. Last I heard, they had their funds removed. They were cost
ing (gasp!) I think a half mill each year. I believe the rabbit still
costs about $15 BIL a year in Oz.
So "bunny lovers" had bugger all to do with it. Mind you bunnies are
great lovers, and _that_ could be what you meant. G
Old Nick wrote:
On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 04:52:31 GMT, "Martin H. Eastburn"
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email
Guess you live in a high rise.
I live on 67Ha (150 acres) of bush.
I involved myself in this discussion from the "selective is wrong"
idea. I learn that if you want to be "nice" to nature you live with
the ****ing consequeces.
If you start to be choosy then you have to be extremely nasty
regarding the "nature" you so admire.
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Marriage. Where two people decide to get together so
that neither of them can do what they want to because
of the other one.
Ever have a 2.5" redwood limb fall 100' at you ? - My house and stuff
take hits every year. My shop has a 2" hole in the roof I patched in the
rain.
I am nature. I live on this earth. I provide for black bear, deer, possum
raccoon, small eagles, Bald Eagle from time to time, vermin under and on top of
ground and those climbing trees. The dozen or so bird species, including some exotic
and one that will never be mentioned :-) on my property. The snakes and newts go
at will. Our dog is sequestered on our back deck and the house. We kill invasive plants
and watch for fire (spending several thousand a year in property protection from fire)
and live on and underneath a hundred or so Coastal Redwoods.
Sounds like you have more land, but less property in my trees are between 100 and 200 feet tall.
The birds live at multiple levels and have their hour in the sun. The small birds are a crackup,
the pecking order is such that as one eats, two or three await in line.
And since I'm mostly at the top of the pecking order I choose how nature is around here.
When the bobcat or mountain lion (brown or black (one here, I haven't seen it yet)) move
through, I give way to them as the other animals here do. We don't put ourselves in harms way
so we have to kill something, but if push comes to shove don't worry.
In Australia, the bunnie lovers almost killed the ranches from what I heard.
Martin
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Marriage. Where two people decide to get together so
that neither of them can do what they want to because
of the other one.