Bob Schmall wrote:


"Leon" wrote in message
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"Eddie Munster" wrote in message
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Last year at a grocery store near where I live, the male suspect died.

He was stealing diapers I believe. He suffocated. The security guards
held him on the ground with their knees on his chest. He couldn't
breath. Suffocation by chest compression, should be covered in training
courses.

John

That is the chance the guy took, He lost this one.

Is this what they call "compassionate conservatism?" That someone stealing
deserves to die? Why not just cut off his hand as they do in less
civilized countries?

This isn't an eye for an eye--this is a life for an eye, and that's not
right. The guy deserved a trial and conviction within a legal system, not
execution by a $8 an hour civilian. When we start allowing vigilante
justice we are well down the road to barbarism.

This is realism. He stole. He thus risked apprehension. When apprehended,
he resisted, and thus risked application of force. When force is applied
then death is a possible outcome. He took the chance, what happened after
that was on his head.

It amazes me that people can turn apprehension of someone caught in the act
into "vigilante justice".

If these guards got a good look at him and three weeks later saw somebody
who they thought looked like him walking down the street and killed that
person, _that_ would be "vigilante justice".

Further, the issue is not that "if someone steals they deserve to die". You
are confusing injuries sustained as a result of resisting apprehension with
penalties applied by law. If someone steals and gets caught at it and gets
hurt or killed while attempting to resist apprehension then that is their
problem. Yes, the guards should have been better trained. But the guy
"knew or should have known" (as various statutes say about various things)
that he was dealing with rent-a-cops. Maybe it didn't occur to him that
lack of training might equate to excessive use of force rather than
inability to overpower him.

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--John
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