"Tom Watson" wrote in message
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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 15:59:15 -0400, "J. Clarke"
wrote:

Charlie Self wrote:

Yup, I guess you're right. Correct, that is. Obviously right. The
Constitution is all screwed up, according to you, because the
presumption
of innocence comes from that source.

Would you care to tell us where, exactly, in the Constitution this
principle
is established?

The 5th, 6th, and 14th Amendments.

I believe presumed innocent pertains more to something that happens with no
witnesses. If you are seen doing something and are caught red handed doing
the deed, presumed innocence means squat in my book.