Greetings and Salutations...

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 23:52:38 +0800, Old Nick
wrote:

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:48:18 -0700, Larry Jaques
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:

remove ns from my header address to reply via email

She broke
Ebay's rule about vengeance feedback. sigh

Which is? Sorry. I had a crap deal from a (commercial, not private)
vendor. I posted facts about equipt failure, and was branded an
"unsatisfiable customer".

Yea, actually, Ebay has NO rules about "vengeance feedback".
they supposedly have this "hands off policy" about feedback that means
that they have no responsiblity for its content. Of course, like
ignoring it when someone farts in church, this is a polite fiction,
because they DO have the power to remove and edit feedback, and, some
primitive guidelines as to what sort of speech is NOT allowed - and
they DO use those powers.

This was discussed recently. Most vendors will not post feedback until
the buyer does. I post neg feedback, so does the vendor. I have no
further fecirse to stating my views. Where does "vengeance" start?

Yea, I have posted some essays both here and in the feedback
forum on Ebay (which by the by, is worth reading, as a LOT of folks
are frustrated by the current way feedback is handled). I have gotten
some serious arguments from sellers both here and there because of
the changes I advocate in the feedback system, but, most of their
arguments are based on a self-serving and incorrect interpretation of
what the feedback system was designed to do, and how it works.
DAGS to find my suggested changes to the system. I, for one,
thought it was a reasonable change, and, I have gotten a number of
replies indicating that OTHERS think so too.
Now...as for being screwed on Ebay... It depends on how much
of your life you are willing to burn for $4 or so. At least, you
can file a complaint with Ebay against the vendor. If you want to
push it a bit further, you can file a fraud complaint with the State
Attorney General's office in the state where the vendor lives.
However, for that amount I can promise that the BEST you will get is
a polite letter from the bureaucrats, saying that you are welcome to
show up in their courts, with a lawyer, and pursue the matter further.
It does happen now and again, and ranges from never getting
anything, to getting the totally wrong thing, to finding that what
you got had carefully concealed flaws. As an example, I just bought
a "network card and Postscript ROM for HP 3si/4si printer". Granted
I got it pretty cheaply. However, alas, the network card was not
the Jet Direct card I thought it was, and, the Postscript rom will
ONLY work in a 4SI printer. My fault, though, as I did not check
things out QUITE enough. However, the description given by the
vendor DID say it was for the two printers (I have a 3SI I wanted to
use the ROM in) and, the picture looked like a jetdirect card, but
the name was in enough shadow that I could not see that it was a
JetXPrint card (which would "work" but needed special setup software
that was not included). I did send the vendor a couple of testy
messages, though, suggesting that the next person might not be
quite so willing to allow him to avoid being dinged with a negative.
"Let the buyer beware" is VERY true on Ebay as well as
in many transactions in our lives. DO the best you can, and expect
to get burned now and again.
Regards
Dave Mundt