"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message news:ebfUc.170445$eM2.101771@attbi_s51...
"Greg O" wrote in message
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"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message
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I just moved into a house with a crappy yard. I want to get it going,
but
don't know where to start. The grass is thin with some bare spots and
loads
of crab grass and weeds. I don't know whether I should fertilize and
weed
killer, or if I should ignore the weeds and fertilize and overseed.

Got any advice?




Weeds are not a problem, you can spray them. Crab grass is more of a
problem, tough to kill it without killing eveything else too!
I had a couple of patches of crabgrass that would not go away, even with
the
pre-emergance, no-halts you apply in the spring. Two summers ago I finally
sprayed it all with Round Up and killed everything in that area. I sprayed
it a couple times over a summer as grass and weeds would appear. Last
summer
I tried to plant grass there and it would not go, too much Round Up? This
spring I tried it again and have a nice crop of grass growing that has
been
going since early spring so I think it will make it! No crab grass as far
as
I can tell.
So I guess if you have a few spots of crab grass I would Round Up the
spots
and re-seed. The weeds I would just hit with a good broad leaf spray
repeating as nessasary. If you have alot of crab grass spray the whole
yard
with Round Up and start fresh!
Greg



My problem appears that I cannot use weed killer and re-seed at the same
time. Most weed products say no seeding for 6-8 weeks. I need to seed in
the next month for good establishment. However, I have weeds everywhere--
lots of clover and creeping weeds and undesirable grass.

Do I work on the grass seeding this fall and worry about weeds next spring?

Do I spray weeds this fall and don't plant seed?

Wish I had the house earlier this year. I would have weeded in the
spring/early summer and seeded now.

You can seed a week after applying Roundup, which is the most widely
used vegetation killer.