On 09/06/2021 11:10, T i m wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 09:24:50 +0100, Andrew
wrote:

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Please explain how so-called 'rewilding' pays the bills ?

Grants. Keep up ...

You mean TAXES

Strange, that link says it's grants that *pay* the people to do it?

https://www.gov.uk/countryside-stewardship-grants

You either leave it to nature (costs nothing) or pay someone who is
stuck there [1] to look after it for us all.

If ypu are going to use (mostly) English taxes to pay those
grants,

Obscure statement 1.

The alternative is some fictitious money tree. Would you regard yourself
to be a socialist perchance?

then they might as well use animals to take care of the
management (which they do, very effectively) and a useful byproduct
is food for the people who live there to make sure the animals
don't escape.

Or not. A much kinder way than exploiting animals is to just let it
rewild like it would have been before we turned up. Yes, ideally those
people would just **** off and stop being a burden on others trying to
have their subsistence life when the world won't support that number
of people that way.

What's more, now we have escaped the EU we could ditch all those
idiotic regulations that forced the closure of many abbatoirs and
resulted in animals being transported longer distances.

Or, we could stop the idiotic approach of considering sentient beings
as food when we don't need to?

Hardly idiotic; where it shown that eating meat and meat products is
part of a healthy natural balanced diet.

Cheers, T i m

[1] Many who were born in the back of beyond don't want to live in
isolation in shift and mud all their lives and move to the towns.

p.s. I saw on Countryfile where they were offering old farmers money
to **** off to allow new people in (who would have a more 'forward
thinking' attitude towards the environment).


Or not, or the same. What makes you think that existing farmers
don't care about the environment ?.

I didn't, the Countryfile report on what the government were doing
did. Existing long term farmers are similar to existing long term
carnists in that they are lest likely to be sufficiently forward
thinking to be willing to change. They are 'more likely' to be 'stuck
in their ways'.

Change is not always good. We have evolved to be omnivores, and require
meat as part of a natural balanced diet. We are not carnists or
carnivores like dogs or cats.

It's unlikely any young farmer will be in doubt that feeding his
children a vegan diet to his children will irreparably damage them and
put them at the bottom of the class.